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Posted on 02-Feb-2000 08:38 GMT by Christian Kemp29 comments
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John Chandler and Czech publication Amiga Review interviewed Greenboy, the Phoenix "facilitator at large". You can read the first part here, there will be three more parts over the next three weeks.
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Greenboy (Phoenix) interviewed : Comment 27 of 29ANN.lu
Posted by Mario Saitti on 03-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (John Block):
> This all sounds very cosy and nice, but is as close to the truth as Gateway's
> promises.
Cool thanks John:)
> I am a marketing bod as well as a creative and have worked
> for/consulted to several computer companies including amiga manufacturers,
> Commodore UK, Sega and Dell.
> I was asked to join in the marketing
> group when the organization was an ideas factory for Gateway.
Phoenix has never been a think tank for Gateway.
> Unfortunatly I made a comment about food which I did not realise was highly
> emotionally charged in a small area of the world. This was taken personally
> and I was dropped, despite making humble apologies.
> From my experience,
Phoenix is WIP, until it is fully operational, you have neither been accepted or dropped from anything but a mailing list. What were you doing speaking of food on the Phoenix lists, comparing strategies or just being off topic? I don't recall the incident personally, but if you provoked an incident that led to folks asking to be unsubscribed, then chances are you would be dropped from the lists.
> I'd say this organization is the personal plaything of the organisers and
> that ideas and contributions will be filtered, censored and discarded on the
> basis of their personal prejudices.
This is reality not Utopia. The team responsible for any project is the arbiter of policy until such time when the project becomes self sustaining. This is neither a new or shocking, it is the foundation for project management. What did you think? That we would spend months and hundreds of man hours setting Phoenix up, then willingly allow someone else to cause havoc or tear it down before the infrastructure for self preservation is there?
FYI, we initially tried to be completely open, to let Phoenix flow from the initial membership. The responses we received from folks who could make or break Phoenix at the time, folks like Carl Sassenrath for instance; (basically do it and then let people judge your efforts), changed our attitude. Most developers don't want to build an organisation, they want to belong to one. Point of note, Carl was actually one of the individuals willing to help out where he could.
Phoenix's ultimate goal is to facilitate the viability of developers in a hostile market. That has not and will not change no matter how or by who it is implemented.
Mario.
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