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Posted on 01-May-2000 09:12 GMT by Christian Kemp21 comments
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Ralph Ewers wrote in to inform me of a message in the German AC-Forum. Aparently, Cloanto contacted Amiga Inc. on the subject of Rainer's homepage, where he stores, among others, support files that were originally part of the former ComBo (Commodore mailbox). While Rainer had/has, among others, copies of most Workbench disks on his site, many German Amiga users can certify that he did this purely to support the Amiga and provide backup copies of files everybody should have anyway... definately not your usual warez site, and therefore it shouldn't be treated as such, in my opinion. Here's Rainer's first posting, in German:

Amiga Inc. holt aus....

.....nach Jahren des Tiefschlafs ist Cloanto zu Amiga Int. gegangen und hat sich doch tatsächlich über die Files meiner Webseite "beschwert".....Erklärungen haben nichts geholen :-), nun kam die Mail von Amiga Inc., die Files zu entfernen, der Internet-Provider sei bereits informiert und wenn ich es dann immernoch nicht tue, würde man rechtliche Schritte einleiten.....auweia.....oder auch "good morning, Amercia".....oder war das Vietnam ?......

In a later posting, he said:

.....mich "stört" eigentlich wieder nur die Art und Weise. Im entsprechenden Teil meiner Story hab ich ja auf die Umstände hingewiesen, die überhaupt dazu geführt haben, warum die Sachen per Box/Web verfügbar gemacht wurden. Ich werde auf rechtlicher Seite sowieso klären lassen, wie es sich damit verhält (ich denke ähnlich Patenten), wenn niemand seine Patentrechte über Jahre "verteidigt". Gary Peake meint nun nach Jahren den Hammer rausholen zu müssen, inzwischen stehen im Verteiler seiner Mail(s) neben Petro, T-Online und Bill McEwen. Ich denke, sie überziehen arg.

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Amiga threatens Rainer Benda : Comment 20 of 21ANN.lu
Posted by Gabriele Favrin on 01-May-2000 22:00 GMT
Why all these defenses to Cloanto/Amiga copyrights? Cloanto behaviour is not
consistent and not something done to defend and support Amiga. They are just
earning the last moneys from a tecnology they supported in the past.
Something more sad is the usual "honest side" of the Amiga Community, that
you can see on public discussions, "no-piracy" web sites, and so on. All
honest. All correct. "This guy doesn't have the right to...", "report pirate
sites", and so on.
Then, you dig a bit and, guess what?
One of the most used Amiga Internet clients is Amster, a Napster client. To
download MP3 versions of commercial songs.
The most used PPC programs have always been QuakePPC (the "illegal" port,
based on stolen sources), MAME (arcade emulator) and MP3 players.
And then you find out about hard-to-find Mac roms, ICQ ports obtained by
sniffing a proprietary protocol, RA ports once again based on stolen sources,
a floating "illegal" QuakeII port, and so on.
I'm pretty sure that anyone who will read or post a comment here will tell
"no, I never did these things!", and maybe it's even true. But reality is
that most Amiga users does them. And, still, on web sites only honest and
pure guys posts messages.
So? So, let's try to move the point, from piracy to the commercial side. At
the end of the day, if Amiga and Cloanto will force that useful site to
close, we will loose something, Amiga will loose something in image (see the
comments here), and Cloanto will too. But who wants to play games on WinUAE
will still find the roms in other places. They aren't interested in Jay
Miners' interview or WB disks. They want a single file, something that, in
their view, is more similar to the PSX bios to use with Bleem, than to an OS.
And they will not buy Amiga Forever, which target are advanced Amiga or ex
Amiga users.
So, isn't more useful to discuss about what/how these choices represents,
than continue to talk about this so called piracy and show how nice, honest
and correct we are all?
Sorry for the bad english, hope to be understandable.
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