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[Rant] Should AmigaOS be Open Source?ANN.lu
Posted on 27-Oct-2000 12:06 GMT by 16 comments
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Georg Steger submitted a short essay on whether AmigaOS should be Open Source, and how to a certain extent (for some people) it already is, or was. A few days ago I have heard from a reliable source that there are quite a lot of people who are in possess of the AmigaOS 3.1 (and older) sources. And this since very long time (> 5 years).

And this people are not Amiga Inc. or Haage&Partner people. Most of them are very well known and famous among Amiga freaks. For example former employees of Commodore, authors of Amiga programming books, some "butterflies".

It seems that the AmigaOS sources have helped this people in making their products/software/hardware/whatever for Amiga. It's very likely that without the AmigaOS sources some of the products would not even have been possible to make. So it was probably no bad thing for Commodore/Escom/Gateway/ Amiga Inc. More likely the opposite: maybe Amiga would have been (really) dead since long time, if this accidents (AmigaOS source going out of their hands) had not happened.

Amiga Inc. says they are commited to open source. But anyway they don't seem to have any intention to really release AmigaOS Classic as Open Source, for everybody. They must have very weird reasons for this. "Protect their IP"? Then why are the people mentioned above no problem for them? (and I cannot believe that Amiga Inc. does not know anything about other people having access to AmigaOS sources). I guess it's clear why: these people were and are good for them.

But then why not release AmigaOS source for everybody? The argument that it would hurt Haage&Partner, Cloanto, ... is not true, IMHO. After all Amiga Inc. is working on a new OS, and AmigaOS 3.9 seems to be the last update to the classic OS. Even if the AmigaOS sources would have been released a year ago, there is very little chance that this would have caused any competition to AmigaOS 3.9 once it is released.

So if certain non-Amiga Inc. people are allowed to have the AmigaOS sources, maybe even make money based on what they learn from the sources. Why aren't other people allowed to do the same, like the AROS team? Who do everything for free, where the source already is free and which everyone can use for whatever he wants.

Without AmigaOS sources as documentation it of course takes very long to finish AROS. But one day it will be finished - if Amiga Inc. is so kind not to kill us shortly before ;-) BTW: I'm wondering which source will then be worth more: AmigaOS source (mix of ASM/C/BCPL and very hardware dependant) or AROS (almost C only, almost hardware independant, RTG, RTA, portable). I don't know ...

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Comment 1Ben26-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
Comment 2Marcel26-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
Should AmigaOS be Open Source? : Comment 3 of 16ANN.lu
Posted by Georg Steger on 26-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Ben):
: Is this news?
Well, to me it was news, that there are people who have the
AmigaOS source, some of which are even in competition with
Amiga Inc. and that this does not seem to be any problem
for the Amiga Inc. guys.
: Linux is a good supported Open Source OS - so what use is
: AmigaOS or AROS source?
Well, some people still prefer the classic AmigaOS over other OSes,
and maybe even over the new OS Amiga Inc. is making. Some people
dream about a powerpc native AmigaOS or an AmigaOS which runs on
actual hardware, which is much more powerful and cheap than anything
possible with the actual Amiga computer, which for many people one
day will stop working, because the hardware is already many years old.
And with AROS this is possible. It is already in a very advanced
state of development. In certain areas much more than the new OS of
Amiga Inc.
For example programs like Lightwave, Cinema4D would already work
*now* under AROS if we had the source to port them. And porting is
really easy as there are only minimal differences between AmigaOS
and AROS.
And speaking about Ami, the new OS from Amiga Inc.. It will take
many years until a good amount of applications are available. Because
it is basically impossible for many Amiga applications to be ported
to this OS, as it is differs very much from AmigaOS. Most Amiga
applications were not written with portability in mind, so to port
these programs would take far too much time and you would probably end
up with having to rewrite 90 % of the code. Therefore you will rather see
new programs written for Ami, than AmigaOS applications being ported.
Okay, you can use some emulator. But no matter if interpreating emulator
or just in time compilation emulator. This will never be anywhere near as
fast as an app running nativelywhen you port and recompile it for AROS.
And as said AROS one day could as well run hosted under Ami, or, less likely:
Ami running hosted under AROS. Why not. Then you could have the best things
of both OSes at the same time. AmigaOS classic programs running at full speed
and new Ami programs running at full speed.
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Comment 4Georg Steger26-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
Comment 5m0ns00n26-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
Comment 6XDelusion26-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
Comment 7greenboy26-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
Comment 8Thomas Würgler27-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
Comment 9Elwood27-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
Comment 10noname27-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
Comment 11Anonymous27-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
Comment 12greenboy27-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
Comment 13Georg Steger28-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
Comment 14Georg Steger28-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
Comment 15Georg Steger28-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
Comment 16Georg Steger28-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
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