|In reply to Comment 70 (Mr.Return):|
Yet, another opportunity to discuss the good that might come of MorphOS gets turned into a slanging match.
I will try to avoid the use of sarcasm here, it seems some people either cannot interpret it on ANN, or choose not too interpret it.
Right, my comment...
"Fleecy has stated already that Elate would run on top of a PPC native AmigaOS..."
Q: Why then do Amiga not let Haage&Partner continue development of their PPC AmigaOS?
It's not going to cost Amiga any money to finance the development - we have all been led to believe that their PPC AmigaOS is fairly complete. - and they stand to reap the rewards of all the sales.
A: Amiga do not want people to use Classic Amiga hardware to run the DE.
Amiga do want the several hundred (maybe thousand?) sales that will come from current Classic Amiga users.
If a PPC native AmigaOS was released, I would buy it tomorrow.
I can't say I would that I would buy the DE tomorrow, cos I personally don't believe that it'll ever take off like they want it too.
Also I don't use my Amiga(s) because I think its the best computer in the world, I use it because I like it a lot more than some windows box, it's not the hardware thats make an Amiga what it is, its not the philosophy, it is the OS.
I'm not alone, I run a fairly large amiga user group, I hang out on IRC with "real" Amiga users, not the kind you find on AmigaNet, I've heard other people voice exactly what I'm writing here.
BTW, you won't recognise me, this isn't my usual handle...
Maybe Amiga knows that a large proportion of the Classic Amiga users feel like I do. They don't want no super flashy OS, they want their AmigaOS and their Amiga to have fun with. And some of them want their Windows machines for all the things the Amiga doesn't do very well.
Maybe that's why they publically threatened the MorphOS developers with legal action to stop them releasing their Amiga compatible OS.
Maybe they are actually very worried that a PPC AmigaOS would take away a large amount of their initial sales, at least their initial 'home user' sales.
I'm not saying I'm right, I don't know all the facts, but I do know it all seems to make a fit together.
In reply to Comment 71:
"I, and many other people, would buy both PPC AmigaOS AND AmigaDE (if it's any good), since they are two different things."
Really? I know I wouldn't. I'd by PPC AmigaOS for my Amiga because it's a great hobby, like my C=64's and my NES are a great hobby.
I wouldn't buy the DE, I've got Windows to do all the stuff my Amiga doesn't.
In reply to Comment 74:
When news of bPlan was first made. The line was something like "bPlan is a company formed by ex-employees of phase5".
I don't know how true that is, but I have no reason to doubt it.
phase5 is not bPlan, wether the same people work there or not.
In reply to Comments about the phase5 PCI busboard:
It was a development board, which used "the same chips you see on a BVision/CVision."
Are Commodore also to be tarred with the same brush for not releasing the AAA chipset?
"While the BVision might "fit" in the A1200 case, it certainly won't WORK in a stock A1200 (at least not for very long), due to the VERY OBVIOUS power and heating concerns."
Hmmm, well if you own a "Goliath" style PSU, plug extra power into the floppy power port, then it will work.
As for heat problems, what "problem"? So it gets bloody hot, so does my 040.
As a side not, my Apollo 040 card did not work in my 'stock' A1200, hence the Goliath power supply.
I would like to see an AmigaOS compatible OS using my PPC, wether its AmigaOS4, or MorphOS I don't give a stuff.
I would be better if the people making a future for the Classic Amiga would work together, or not at all.
If that means MorphOS being disbanded so the bPlan teams can work with H&P on AmigaOS4, so be it.
Or AmigaOS4 being thrown away and MorphOS being developed, thats fine too.
If it means Amiga Inc saying "hey, we don't want a PPC native Amiga OS", well then at least we'd know.
Whatever way forward is chosen, if it's not a unified one then there are two groups of people who suffer.
Developers suffer from lack of sales, and users suffer from lack of development, driven by diversification.
If the developers hate each other, just come out and say it. All this cloak and dagger shit does nobody any favours.
People will assume the worst unless you tell them otherwise.
Personally, I think its too late for that.
MorphOS will continue until Amiga Inc take legal action, which I am betting Amiga Inc would lose... after all MorphOS is only "Amiga Compatible".
Amiga will be telling Amiga users a PPC Native OS is due when they get just those few more 3.9 sales, for maybe a year or two.
Hyperion et al will continue making games that only run on WarpOS, which is fine by me, I don't play much games on my Amiga.
And everyone will continue to flame each other on a cool news site called ANN.