| [News] Explanations from Fleecy, part 3 | ANN.lu |
| Posted on 01-Apr-2001 13:11 GMT by Christian Kemp | 63 comments
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Fleecy writes: AmigaOS4.0 will be launched in the summer, with 4.2 and 4.5 coming out at six month intervals. OS5 will be late next year.
He adds:
People have buried the Amiga more times than squirrels bury acorns, and you know what, it keeps on growing back. Beware the naysayers, for they have their own agendas.
In reply to a quote which says Ralph Schimdt (MorphOS) says there Amiga Inc has a lot of illusions...BPlan won`t run AmigaOS4...it will run MorphOS, he answers:
Amiga Inc has an agreement with bPlan to build an AmigaOne. AmigaOne computers run Amiga Inc software. Whatever else is run on it is nothing to do with us, unless it infringes our copyrights or
IP.
Finally, he says:
I have spent hours a day trying to bring all the Amiga developers together but it seems there is just too much hatred. In the end there can only be one AmigaOS, and one Amiga Inc company moving it forwards. Amiga has retaken control, is working directly with many contractors and looks forwards to all working with us to make a better Amiga in the future..
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| Posted by Andy on 01-Apr-2001 22:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 21 (Ralph Schmidt):
Ralph you are a tit.
>I actually said that MorphOS will run on the BPlan system.
>I haven't mentioned AmigaOS(TM) 4.0/5.0...up to this point nobody
>has seen an AmigaOS(TM) 4.0/DE working with/without AmigaHW(TM).
>BPlan needs something for the release which satisfies most
>of their amiga(TM) customers and this OS will be MorphOS, Linux
>and hopefully also QNX.
>BPlan doesn't need an OS which *may* run next year.
As if you'd allow other OSes on YOUR system?
>Furthermore we also asked Eyetech through several channels
>if they want us to support their HW(get the HW specs).
>We got no reply either for obvious reasons because they
>have chosen "their" side of the fence.
Maybe they thought your OS was cack? Perhaps it has something to do with the fact they made a deal with Amiga a LONG TIME AGO?
You already have decided to make a split in the community, who gives a shit about fences when it's solutions people want.
It's people like you who destroyed the market, who wants to be involved with so much bitching
>Beyond that we were threatened legally in an email by
>Fleecy Moss in february. That was a major mistake.
>Not to mention certain "informations" to dealers by
>their "Premium" Partners if they carry MorphOS they
>won't be delivered anymore.
Maybe he threatened you becuase you were going to do something illeagal?
Can you prove these allegations?
>Unlike others we haven't threatened Amiga(TM) Inc. about
>anything besides being a threat by having the product
>they would like to have but can't control themselves.
Bollocks, you haven't ever wanted to play fair. I can't remeber a time when after some major event (Which didn't involve you) you haven't bitched an whinged about it.
>We presented our product to them in December on the WOA.
>They liked it and already announced to certain developers
>that they want MorphOS as AmigaOS(TM) 4.0 in December/January.
>This "decision" was overruled by the backdoor politics
>of 2 companies a month later as they couldn't deal with
>loosing their influence.
Why do you mince words? come on say it. If it is true then you have proof, maybe they didn't like you attitude and decided that it would be better to look elsewhere
>As we also develop the suited PPC HW we thought
>it would be obvious for Amiga(TM) Inc. what would be the
>ideal solution for this market.
>This was obviously not understood and under this condition
>i'm a bit surprised how somebody has the illusion that
>they will be actively supported from us.
>You don't threat somebody legally from which you wanna
>have support from. That's common sense to me.
You threaten them if they attempt to do something wrong. Lets face it you've wanted a monopoly of the Amiga market for quite some time. You want people to use YOUR solutions, choice isn't in your game plan
>The whole situation is sad for the amiga(TM) users, developers
>and the market itself.
>We think we did all to avoid it as we *really* tried to reach
>an agreement between November and February.
>Too bad that failed when Amiga(TM) Inc. made a business decision
>they think is "best" for "them".
>We think it was an extremely bad decision for several
>reasons...
>o technical implementation
>o time to market.
>o developer acceptance
>o business *reality*.
And for MorphOS? How about
o Crippled to old hardware
o No outside investment
o business *reality*
o developer acceptance
o The fact that YOU work on it, and you are arrogant, narrowminded, meglomaniacal...........in fact that was why I went from being VERY exicted about morphOS to not wanting to have anything to do with it. I read what you write on ANN shortly after finding out about MorphOS.
>When Amiga(TM) Inc. says that we decline to "join" them
>with 4.0/5.0 projects they silently ignore the real issues
>here.
>Such a sentence means nothing without the meaning of "join"
>to do "what" under "which" conditions.
>What "plan" Mr. Moss presented us end februar to get us "involved"
>was a technical joke. It would have resulted into abandoning our
>working framework for "their" project.
>Port AmigaOS(TM)/MorphOS OS modules to their chosen WarpOS base
>which wouldn't have been suited at all for this design. Then we
>should help them writing drivers and all that on somebody else
>financing but not them.
>And the final issue was that they then own the result.
>That basicly sums up what was presented to us.
>Sounds like a Timothy Rue conspiracy plot...doesn't it ?:-)
Maybe you just wanted to run the show? I cannot explain how much you and certain other people in your little community annoy me. You can take this personally if you want becuase I don't care.
>AROS and MorphOS already agreed on a mutual partnership
>some weeks ago.
>Further SW and HW announcements will follow soon.
How long before they leave you becuase you try to take over the show?
MorphOS could have been great, if you hadn't been such a pratt and decided to use it to fight your little pathetic battles. Oh and before you come out with more conspiricy crap, I haven't supported Amiga Inc. up until this point. This is the first good announcement they've made. I will be buying an AONE as soon as I can. I'm not wasting my money on DCE, Phase5, You or whoever.
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