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Posted on 24-May-2001 21:04 GMT by Christian Kemp20 comments
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.jon writes: I am a wondering why the PEGASOS is 'pronounced' as 'modular'. It is not. It is just a standard MicroATX board. Now, if you call PCI slots 'modular' then it might be okay for you. For me it isn't. When the PEGASOS was announced I was happy about the word 'modular'.
Because, so I hoped, we would get the long awaited modular system.

What we get is an (admittedly very nice) DUAL PPC MoBo (and I will get one if I do not find an alternative). I have been searching for a MoBo that has Firewire in addition to IRDA and Ethernet and all the other standard plugs onboard. I did not find one in neither CPU world, something was missing, either it had Firewire onboard but was missing the LAN or similar) so I was really lucky when I heard of the PEGASOS.

But: What is the userbase for such a board ? It is quite universal, true. But, regarding the fact that it has IEEE1394 (FireWire) onboard I would target it in first place to Video people, who, in addition, will benefit of dual CPU power. Plans I have are somewhat similar. I'd personally define the PEGASOS as a multimedia mobo.

Today I read about the release of the final IEEE1394b specification, which, at its best, means FireWire at four times the current max-speed. It will require new cables. New plugs. But remain compatible to the old signals in a special compatibility mode. First products are awaited in late summer/Q4.

So, when I buy a PEGASOS system ('cause, as it seams, you will not be able to buy the mobo solo (according to the interview with bplan on Amiga Future, it was only named together with "licensed system" and "pre-built system") I will buy an outdated Firewire I/O. Sure, not much outdated, just a little. It is not of a big concern, since Firewire itself is quite new. But where is the modularity ? Exactly this would be a case for modularity. If it would be modular, the Firewire could be replaced easily. Can it ? I guess not. Sure, I might be in error. Then I appologize. If not, I hope this will be read or told by/to someone responsible. Maybe the final Pegasos will include already the new standard ?

PCI/AGP is just not what I would name 'modular'. Then every and any PC is modular. Why name it than as a special feature ?

And I hope for a bit more fanatsy in future PPC mobos, by whoever they might be designed. World is changing... PPC is a bit 'special'. It is not an everyday's CPU. So I hope the underlying hardware will be special as well.

Since I am at it: My ideal PPC mobo would look like the PEGASOS.

  • 2 more PCI slots
  • IEEE1394b (even better: make the IO ports some module)
  • modular DSP option ?!
  • (modular) onboard U2WSCSI (option)
  • wake-on-lan/modem
  • special port for output of system diagnositcs and perhaps other data to LCD

Why not put all the extras on PCI ? Well, the PPC can be suficient at low speeds with less cooling. If I get a real modular mobo, that has anything onboard, I might even leave the PCI cards out and get a perfect multimedia/homebox. Noiseless, powerfull.

P.S.Christian, what about another PREVIEW button after the first preview ?

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PEGASOS' : Comment 19 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by Casey R Williams on 26-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Anonymous):
Here where I am, it's almost 3 in the morning on a Saturday night... If you know what that means, then be forgiving... First off, Ralph, it's nice to see you in a thread in which people are not nailing you to the cross (so to speak)... You've done alot of hard work for this community and even though many don't realise it yet, you're an Amiga legend. Secondly, I wanna know why people don't get what DE is about! I'll admit having a bit of a problem seeing where Amiga and Tao are distinct entities- Tao seem like they don't need or have a plan for Amiga but perhaps that's part of the plan I don't see. What I do get is this... Tao's technology is small enough to be installed on an individual application basis. People act as if there has to be this huge Amiga logo all over the place, as if otherwise all is for naught. You just don't get it. What Amiga are working on is more like OpenGL than an OS. If an application needs it, it will either install it or locate it. That it happens to be an OS is beside the point, as most every desktop machine will still be running it hosted. Or should I say that apparently that's the only way to run it. This is great, as like OpenGL ubiquity will breed familiarity and in time maybe no one will care that the OS is hosted, much as many Windows users don't give a damn that Win has it's MSDOS heritage (something that I thought was horrible until I actually got a Win machine-the one I'm using this very moment). So basically we're talking about this trivial bit of code that can included with any application to allow it to run on some 14 different CPU based platforms. But, in order to insure that the majority of apps are able to run on portable hw, they don't want to have a desktop machine just yet. This is great as it means that Amiga OS will once again move forward (or at least laterally in worst case situations ;) and, and this seems to be the stumbling block for reasons I can't fathom, since the new "OS" is hosted, it shouold be able to run on MorphOS. Now is it Amiga (who shouldn't worry about competitors with their desktop OS if they truly believe in Tao's technology) or MorphOS/bPlan (who have no reason to fear either Amiga product, unless they're afraid Amiga will try to dictate the direction things go) who are being hard-headed? Ralph, Bill, either of you celebrate a birthday recently?
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