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Posted on 24-Oct-2001 10:17 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä54 comments
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Haage & Partner announce: "Sales of AmigaOS XL started on Thursday, the 18.10. The delivery of the pre-orders will last until the end of the week. Thank you very much for your understanding. Last weekend the new version was introduced and sold at Pianeta 2001 in Empoli (Italy)."
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AmigaOS XL: Sale started on 18.10. : Comment 25 of 54ANN.lu
Posted by Frank Livadaros on 24-Oct-2001 22:55 GMT
There is one thing that most people seem to ignore.
The vast majority of Amiga users uses pirated stuff, even today.
Most of Amithlon's users will use pirated copies of Amithlon to
run pirated software.
Additionally, it is more than obvious (and sensible) that most
(i.e. 99%) of Amithlon users will also run another OS on their
machine, which in most cases will be Windows.
Why should I believe that any of those people would wait for the
Amiga version of a program when they can have a PC version sooner
and cheaper due to economies of scale? (some people from Hyperion
have already talked about that in another thread)
What makes anyone believe that any sensible software developer
that has to make a living out of his products would devote
money and time to develop anything for Amiga running on Amithlon
while he can write stuff for another OS (ie Windows) that will run
on the *same* hardware as Amithlon and which provides better
development tools and a vastly larger user base?
How hardcore and fanaticized does one have to be in order not to
install Windows on his AMD/Intel machine and wait for an Amithlon
version of the same software or just *ignore* some good software
on the Windows platform because he wants to use Workbench instead?
Anyone developing for the Amithlon (supposing it's the only Amiga
around) is actually competing with the big companies in the PC market
because most Amithlon users will use a PC OS as well (unless they're
extreme fanatics). Most developers left in the Amiga are still on this
platform not only because they like the Amiga environment (which I do
understand) but also because in the Amiga market they can have larger
profit margins than in the PC market. Not to mention of course, that
in the PC market most of them wouldn't last a month and would have to
get a job in somebody else's company.
Amithlon is something that I will definately use so that I can have
a portable (classic as they say) Amiga, to run the software that I
already run on my Amigas.
This though is not a viable evolutionary path since I will definately
not wait for anyone to release e.g. Warcraft3 of Word on the Amithlon
so that I can say that I'm running it on Workbench, while I can dual
boot the system to Windows (although I do not like Windows as an OS).
Think of it the other way around as well. I did not run Lotus123 on
Transformer or PCTask because I had native programs (Procalc and
Turbocalc) that were so much better.
On the other hand, Amiga-specific hardware like the Pegasos or the
AmigaOne (yes, I know they use PC parts but they cannot run Windows,
can they) is a guarantee for the software developer that he will not
be competing with the big Wintel software companies and that he can
play in his small or medium sized pond (like the Amiga market used to
be in 1988-1993; Now it's not even a glass of water). This is the only
way the Amiga developers can survive (after they re-appear that is) and
the only way we can get some decent *original* (not conversions) software
like we used to a few years ago.
The same goes for all those Macintosh companies.
As for hardware, I do not foresee a market like one that existed with GVP,
ICD, Supra, Phase5 etc, as the parts for Pegasos and AmigaOne are industry
standard. This can only exist if a new Amiga would use very proprietary
stuff like the A1000,500 etc did and had a leading edge compared to the
IBM PC.
Anyhow, the Amithlon/AmigaXL is a good idea for anyone who wants to run
(classic) Amiga stuff, but just that.
The AmigaOne and Pegasos is our chance to break free of hacked PPC boards,
aging motherboards and out-of-production chips and to see some innovative
people returning to the market since they'll be able to make money out of it.
Anyone who does not accept the fact that most of the software is still
being pirated, is just voluntarily being blind or lives in an ivory tower.
Just my 2c.
Frank
...Amiga user since 1987
A3000/040, A1200HD/030/SCSI, A1200HD/030, A2000/030/SCSI, A500HD, CDTV.
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