[News] AFUA visited Thendic-France | ANN.lu |
Posted on 24-Apr-2002 15:30 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä | 629 comments View flat View list |
The French Amiga user group AFUA visited the Thendic-France headquarters and met with Bill Buck and the Coyote Flux guys. Read their report here.
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Posted by Frodon on 27-Apr-2002 13:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 341 (Samface): Hello,
You said:
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Please, answer me this:
1. MorphOS (the officially released version available for download) does replace the AmigaROM with it's own Quark kerenel, I've never denied that like some other people claim. But, would you deny the fact that the AmigaROM is used in anyway for launching AmigaOS3.x ontop of that kernel and emulator?
2. Could you deny the fact that the MorphOS team/bPlan/Thendic-France use the recognition of the Amiga trademark for marketing their products? I mean, announced as an Amiga next-generation PowerPC OS, advertising the Pegasos when you search for AmigaOne at google, uses the Workbench trademark, etc...
3. Would you deny the fact that MorphOS has used reverse engineering of the AmigaOS? You see, Ralph Scmidt himself told me that MorphOS is a reverse engineered product which according to him is perfectly legal. (Ben Hermans made it perfectly clear that this is not the case.)
Don't give me your opininon or something you simply claim to know, give me the cold facts."
Sorry but all that I can say about what you claim to be facts is that it isn't fact at all!!! It's your opinion, and that show us that you know quite nothing on the situation.
1. MorphOS does not replace the ROM, it just load it's kernel and run it. Like Linux/APUS do. Like Linux on PCs do. Like any OS do ;) If you think that this is illegal first you are completely wrong second then the Linux/APUS team should be sued to. The NetBSD Amiga Team should be sued to, The OpenBSD Amiga Team should be sued to... But they haven't been sued and will never be because it's legal to run an other OS than the one which was delivered on a specific hardware. It's done on PC, Macs, Amiga, Atari...all computers. It'd be illegal to forbid this.
2. But the Pegasos + MorphOS IS an Amiga compatible computer. It's a fact ;-)
3. Has Hermans said, reverse engineering is different from decompilation. Reverse engineering is legal. Decompilation isn't legal in all situations. So yes MorphOS can be a reverse engineered product and be perfectly legal. What Mr Hermans claim that make MorphOS illegal is that it have used decompialtion. But it doesn't in reality. But of course Hermans want to see proofs of that.
> I want to be able to examine the proof myself like in a courtroom where no
> proof can be presented to the court without letting the other side of the case
> examining it first.
You don't have the required knowledges to act as a judge. So don't try to.
The only thing your attitude show me is that you are, like most of the humans in this earth, a guy that believe that he is right and that don't want to admit his mistakes. This kind of guys are the guys who have made the bad things of this world (pollution, Genetically Modified Organisms...etc).
Just try to get more infos and more important to read and understand them OBJECTIVELY!! That's to say without pre-judgments. And also don't try to play roles that you can't like pretending that you are enough good to be a lawyer or a court judge or a SW or HW technician. You have proved that you CAN'T.
So do like most people here should do don't talk when you don't have the knowledges.
Even myself I don't answer when I know that I can't answer because I don't have the knowledges. Note that here I didn't gave you a complete answer on your points but just things that are evident or been said by people who know (Hermans for the third point). I can't give you a real complete answer because I don't know enogh the case. What I know is that MorphOS don't use any decompialtion and that Hermans, a lawyer, said that reverse engineering is different from decompilation and that it's perfectly legal. Hermans is a lawyer and he is arguments against MorphOS are not about reverse engineering but about decompilation.
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