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Pegasos and Morphos on German TV 3Sat : Comment 186 of 272ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 19-May-2002 05:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 185 (Adam Kowalczyk):
AIncs licence includes some ugly pills bPlan
just won't take (for good reasons I think).
1. The bundling-scheme:
This means bPlan has to wait for Hyperion to
finish COS4 before they can sell any boards
to the "Amiga"-market (doesn't seem to be the
problem for Eyetech btw.).
This is unacceptable as the Pegasos is their
only product and they have invested huge sums
into its development.
Whoever finaced this won't be pleased about
any further delay.
It's not a problem for Eyetech/Elbox as they
have other products to sell and use (slighly
modified) existing designs.
2.bPlan has allready partners who develop for
MorphOS and might be able to deliever before
the release of COS4. They wouldn't be pleased
about the smaller market they gone have after
such an agreement.
3.bPlan wants to stay in controll over their
system (just like AInc.) and it's not clear
how the terms for a Pegasos_SG would look like
and when (and at what quality) OS-updates will
4.AIncs "quality-scheme" demands that bPlan have
to explain their financial status to AInc. This
is reasoned by the statement that there were
company in the market that delieverd "shaggy"
service and that this would fall back on AInc.
Eyetech/Elbox don't have any other option (OS)
so they had to sign it.
If you think 4 is a acceptable I think you have
to agree that it would also work the way round
(buggy SW give the HW a bad repitation).
Therefore I made up this announcment:
Frankfurt (Germany) 19.5.02
bPlan-GmbH announces their new quality-scheme:
"We the bPlan-team would like invite every suitable
OS-vendor to join in our new and wonderfull Pegasos-
projekt that is going to bring us all into a bright
future !
If you and your company want to join us with your OS
all you got to do is sign our free licence.
To avoid copying of our HW-design you must make sure
every copy of your OS suitable of running on our HW
is only sold bundled with our HW.
To our deepest regret their have been incedents in
the past regarding OS-development that could have a
bad effect on the reputation of our HW. This includes
announcing an OS based on a technology that wasn't
capable to be used as an OS, publishing false progress
reports and unrealistic release schedules. One vendor
was actaully selling coupons for an OS before they
even started development.
To avoid these troubles we have to insist on the OS
vendors to keep themselves committed to quality and
good after-sales service. This can only be done by
intensive finacial-screening to avoid bankruptsy and
the setup of "help"-department by the OS-vendor..."
I bet AInc./Hyperion would rush to sign this and
would be very pleased of the idea to open up their
books to bPlan.
When AInc. announced this they allready knew it was
absolut inacceptable for bPlan (I even believe thats
the purpose of the whole thing).
It was AInc.(Hyperion) that went from "every suitable
HW" to "every licenced HW" in April.
BPlan made it clear (in November) that they didn't
see COS4 as a priority for their HW, that Hyperion
wouldn't get a special status (bundling) and that
noone would get access to the flash-ROM (for the
It was AInc who suddenly changed the rule not bPlan
so you got to blame them.
If the Pegasos is released in a few weeks, Hyperion
can buy one and port COS4 based on the A1-version
and bPlans linux-kernel.
It's their (AIncs) desicion if they release this in
any way or not.
#188 Samface
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