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Posted on 19-May-2002 14:10 GMT by jah | 359 comments View flat View list |
i noticed a new video on aminet:
http://www.aminet.net/pix/mpg/Pegasos.mpg
"This is a demo video of bPlan's Pegasos computer. The video has been created by Thendic-France to give an impression of how the machine runs."
the download is still in progress, but i'm sure it will finish to convince all amiga users thats the ppc amiga they are waiting since years is finally arrived
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Posted by Darrin on 19-May-2002 22:48 GMT | In reply to Comment 176 (Janne Sirén): >Sure, like the AmigaOne was supposed to be in the hands of developers in April. Things get delayed for any number of reasons. It too was supposed to be ready, was it not? Yours is guess-work at best, unless of course you have a source you can name for it?
It's easy to call one month a "delay", but bPlan claimed to have dev-boards available a hell of a long time ago. The AmigaOne dev-boards are in the hands of Eyetech right now (confirmed by Eyetech). Apparently the bPlan dev-board production hasn't even started (please correct me if I'm wrong).
>Sure, if the hardware indeed is as ready as old information would suggest this is a possibility. Although I do see a double standard at work here.
Where is the double standard? The Eyetech AmigaOne is being released with LinuxPPC only. Any inclusion of a beta-OS4 has yet to be (publicly) confirmed.
>Amiga Inc. have chosen to demand the use of piracy-prevention ROM on AmigaOS 4.0 capable machines (so they did release AmigaOne early, if those boards ever get to developers, but not in a form that can be used with AmigaOS 4.0), but you can not accept the possibility that the MorphOS camp would try something similar to protect their investment?
There is some conflicting information circulating over the "protection" ROMS. The last statement from Eyetech is that the AmigaOne dev-boards are EXACTLY the same as the full production based boards and NO ROM UPGRADE IS NEEDED. bPlan could sell "OS4 enabled" versions of their board by simply using a "dongle" from any port. Hell, make a firewire dongle!!!
If MorphOS is free then what "investment" is there to protect? The money is being made from the sale of the Pegasos board, so if you can sell a Pegasos board with OS4 to an Amiga fan then you have made exactly the same amout of profit as you would if you sell a Pegasos with MOS to a MOS fan.
That raises the question "Why don't bPlan want to sell Pegasos for use with OS4?". Possible answers:
1. They are so Anti_Amiga Inc that they wouldn't urinate on them if they were on fire.
2. They are scared that a direct benchmark comparison between OS4 and MOS if run on the same hardware would show how inefficient MOS really is.
3. They are not interested in making money. So expect them to fold as a company soon and leave all you Pegasos owners with no support/warantee.
>In any case, I must stress that I have seen no proof of what you are saying. It is full of innuendo and what looks to me like a clear bias against bPlan. I mean no disrespect, just IMHO. As far as I know, bPlan have plans in other markets as well (embedded?) so I find your reasoning questionable at best.
If you have missed the public attacks of the past then you may have trouble understand my views. Did you see the email between Fleecy and a certain member of the Pegasos syndicate that was made public a few months back? It clearly showed that bPlan were trying to get Amiga Inc to stab Hyperion and Eyetech in the back and jump into bed with bPlan and MOS. Amiga Inc politely refused.
>Also, if one commenter here is right, MorphOS developers may have ordered an AmigaOne and haven't gotten it either. In fact, has anyone? I have no information on this, but you must since you claim bPlan is doing something wrong whereas the other camp is not?
Well, as I said earlier, Eyetech have the dev-boards in their hands, bPlan haven't even started a production run of dev-boards. Big difference.
>And finally: Even if they have chosen to delay the release of Pegasos in favour of MorphOS, can anyone blame them? (I'm sure someone can.) They are well within their rights to make such a business decision. Stuff about "pay[ing] for a copy of M[orph]OS at a later date" (when the license is apparently included in the original price) or evil plans to leave people "stuck with M[orph]OS" in the hopes of AmigaOS 4.0 are just bad-mouthing in my opinion.
You're right on one part - bPlan have the right to do whatever they like with the Pegasos. Unfortunately at one point MOS was going to be the only PPC solution for the Amiga. When OS4 by Hyperion was greenlighted and people started asking bPlan if OS4 would run on the Pegasos because they wanted OS4 not MOS then bPlan stated that Hyperion were quite capable of purchasing a dev-board to produce OS4 for the Pegasos. Hyperion then ordered such a board and publically announced their support of the Pegasos, but no dev-board was ever sent to Hyperion and then the propaganda war started again with the usual chemical warfare BS attack from bPlan and it's hired henchmen...
>Where do you base these allegations on?
Well, you could simply look back through the ANN/Amiga.org/etc archives or simply stay tuned - they same old stuff reappears time and time again. :)
>I'm not saying I agree with everything bPlan does
I should certainly hope not! After all, you seem like a decent chap ;)
>(or Amiga/Eyetech/Hyperion for that matter), but lets try to be fair and not use excessive innuendo.
If we did that then there would be hardly any news posted on ANN and no thread would get longer than five posts. Now where's the fun in that?
>We all have our opinions for sure, but they shouldn't cloud us from recognizing fact and fiction. There is much of the latter going on these days in both camps, nobody is innocent I guess.
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