[News] Petition: AmigaOS distribution policies and PPC hardware | ANN.lu |
Posted on 25-May-2002 20:50 GMT by Seehund | 187 comments View flat View list |
There's a petition aimed at Amiga Inc. set up at http://www.petitiononline.com/amigaos/ for all those who disagree with Amiga Inc's presented plans regarding compulsory OS/hardware bundling and licensing.
An excerpt from the petition:
On April 12th, 2002, you, Amiga Inc., published your plans regarding distribution policies for the forthcoming AmigaOS4 in an "Executive Update" on your web site.
In short, what you say and what we the undersigned object against is this:
* Any hardware capable of running AmigaOS must first be modified with "AmigaOS specific extensions" to its "boot ROM" in order to be allowed to run AmigaOS.
* Such hardware and its distributors must be approved and licensed by Amiga Inc. and the hardware distributors must also sell and support AmigaOS4.
* AmigaOS will only be available bundled with such hardware.
We think that the above will seriously hurt AmigaOS users, the POP/PPC hardware market and thus ultimately you, Amiga Inc., yourselves.
To read the entire petition and sign it, please click here.
Before those imagining sides, factions, camps and personal enemies everywhere start commenting, it must be emphasised that this poll is not intended to "promote" anything else than the success of AmigaOS, the POP/PPC hardware market, free choice and ethical business practices.
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Petition: AmigaOS distribution policies and PPC hardware : Comment 126 of 187 | ANN.lu |
Posted by Seehund on 27-May-2002 11:20 GMT | In reply to Comment 119 (DaveW): DaveW,
> Whereas I think that some like Seehund genuinly are seeking clarification
> over the licensing direct from Amiga Inc ( apparently logic and others
> reasoning does not have the credibility with him - fair enough )
Oh come on. Saying that logic has no credibility with an "opponent" in a debate is pretty low. If anyone's disregarding logic here I have a hard time seeing it. What I see are different opinions, experiences and unfortunately the old irrelevant and boring side-taking and trademarks which influence people's logic reasoning.
The basic plan regarding the compulsory licensing, OS/hardware bundling and demands in general on third party hardware distributors/manufacturers are there on AI's site in black and white for everyone to read. Details may be unclear, but the fundamentals can't be argued. Yet I see so many people here (no names) merely parroting what we all can read - and what the petition is opposing in the first place - as arguments against what's said in the petition! It's ridiculous. Lot's of credibility for some people's reasoning disappear right there:
The petition: "We don't agree with Amiga Inc. saying X, because [...]"
NN1: "But Amiga Inc. says X! You're wrong!"
Me or a signee: "Yes, they do say X, and we think that's bad because [...]"
NN1&2: "Why aren't you reading what they say?? Amiga Inc. says X!!!"
Me or...: "We have been reading, that's how we came to our conclusion, and X is not our opinion. Why do you agree with X?"
NN1&2&3: "AMIGA INC. SAYS X!!!! SHUT UP!!! X!!! X!! X!! bplan trolls!!!!"
I'm not after clarification as much as a total change. Small details have been clarified by Ben Hermans in online forums, but those details don't change what the petition points out as the basic flaws in AI's plans. Not even these few clarifications of minor details are anywhere to be found on the web site of the company in question, Amiga Inc.
> others are seeing this as a reason to bash Amiga Inc. and defend the
> "poor beleagured Pegasos".
So be it, with their signatures they support the petition so I don't care what each individual thinks other than that. I also think many here have different views on what constitutes "bashing" of any company. Some seem to think that any disagreement is equal to "high treason".
Abuse and attempted sabotage will of course be deleted before any results are compiled, so those who find that amusing can lay off right now, please. I have to say that >200 signatures in a day and a half, and only max 10 abusers is still a better ratio than I had hoped for.
I'm not sure who you're referring to in the rest of your comment, Dave. People who have signed the petition, people who have posted abuse in the petition or people who have used the Optional Comments field for Optional Comments?
> I think Amiga Inc should go its own way, ship A1SE and A1XE with AOS4 and
> SUSE [...]
Yeah, if they don't change their minds regarding what's been said, then I think that this would be a good idea *if they indeed sold their own hardware*. Now we know that there's no chance that AI will ever design, make or sell any hardware, so I think they should adjust their thinking to that of a software company and try to get their product used on as much hardware as possible.
Anyway, I have said most of what I have to say in the petition and in the comments here and elsewhere before that was published. If anyone has anything else but merely repeating the executive update again and again without any reasoning of their own, I might bother to join this discussion again. |
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