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Posted on 12-Jun-2002 00:21 GMT by sutro169 comments
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osopinion: Close That Open Hardware! : Comment 84 of 169ANN.lu
Posted by Seehund on 13-Jun-2002 09:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 77 (Samface):
Samface,
> I still don't see the admirable part about spreading FUD.
And I still don't see why you persist in abusing and devaluating the term "FUD". Please stop it.
> This petition is not "talking", he's only giving inaccurate information about
> Amiga Inc.'s licensing policies to people which doesn't know better.
You have been asked over and over again by me, Janne Sirén and others in this thread alone to specify what you percieve as untruths from my part. You have not yet done that. Please be so kind and do that if you are going to call someone a liar in public.
I also think it's a it a rather remarkable behaviour to dismiss more than 600 people including well-known developers and "luminaries" from both our "community" and "outsiders" as people who don't "know better". Think, then type.
> It's easy to convince someone who can't tell the difference between the lie
> and the real facts, even more effective if you use FUD.
There you go again! Are you saying that all who don't agree with a company's clearly outlined distribution policies of a certain product are retarded or just analphabetics? I suppose we are lucky there is someone as enlightened as you here who is willing to repeat the same arguments which we don't agree with, so that we will learn the fault of our ways! Much appreciated. Thanks for being so elevated over our profane world down here so that you can help us determine "lies" from "the real facts" in an unbiased and absolute way.
Again, would you please tell us which of the things that the petition and its signatories don't agree with that differ from the "real facts"? Try to ignore for a moment *why* the petition (and the article which is the topic of this thread) doesn't agree with those things and *why* you agree with them. Just say what those "real facts" are which turn what I say into lies.
> This petition will only tell Amiga Inc. about their opinion, not the
> community's opinion as a whole.
Yes, a petition tells what the signatories of that petition think. This is the purpose of a petition. Is that supposed to be a shocking revelation?
> I find Wayne Hunt's effort to be much more admirable when he did the poll
> showing us an entirely different picture.
First, nobody is yearning for your admiration, second, none of the opinions endorsed by the petition are presented in that poll (wasn't it Rodney McDonell(sp?) who did it BTW?). It's quite unsurprising that an artist painting a picture of a forest will end up with a picture different to that of another artist doing a Stilleben of a fish. (BTW, currently 159 people have answered that they think "AI is going in the right direction", a statement "even" I and I suppose many signatories can agree with to some extent, but it's still less than 600.)
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