[Rant] osopinion: Close That Open Hardware! | ANN.lu |
Posted on 12-Jun-2002 00:21 GMT by sutro | 169 comments View flat View list |
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Posted by Seehund on 13-Jun-2002 11:07 GMT | In reply to Comment 88 (Samface): > 1. AmigaOS4 will only run on Amiga specific PPC hardware,
There is no AmigaOS-specific hardware. Nobody is making or designing any AmigaOS specific hardware.
It doesn't matter if the hardware utilised is based on POP, CHRP or whatever, there will not be any AmigaOS-specific hardware.
> 2. Eyetech, Elbox, Matay and Merlancia Industries are all making or planning to
> make AmigaOS4 compatible hardware.
Eyetech aren't making or designing any hardware. The yet "un-licensed" companies Elbox and Matay are making expansion boards for "classic" Amigas (or ordering rebadged Mac expansion boards?), and nobody really knows what Merlancia is doing, if anything. Last I heard they were going to sell systems based on the Pegasos POP-based mobos. Whether software is compatible with a piece of hardware is of course not the hardware vendor's or developer's concern.
> [quote]
> AmigaOS users will have their hardware and hardware vendor options
> unnecessarily restricted.
> [/quote]
> Why would it be more restrictive to the users hardware options when this
> license enables *any* PPC hardware manufacturer/distributors to get AmigaOS4
> support instead of just POP based hardware?
Now you're in opinion territory, you're not discussing the "real facts" which you were talking about. Very well, I'll explain my opinion again. There are unnecessary obstacles without technical basis against seeing AmigaOS running on any piece of potentially compatible hardware. There. And nobody has mentioned running on only POP-based hardware - it's about *any* potentially compatible hardware. You have yourself been repeating the obvious that all POP-based hardware is not created equal. As it happens, most PPC hardware that is not made by Apple or IBM is based on the POP/CHRP design guidelines. The compulsory licensing business has nothing to do with "enabling" anything.
> [quote]
> AmigaOS and its users have already lost two significant hardware options only
> because of this policy.
> [/quote]
> FUD! Amiga Inc. had support from the previously mentioned Amiga specific
> hardware manufacturers before this license came along while they have *never*
> had support from bPlan or the Barbie developer. The license hasn't affected
> the situation for the AmigaOS users at all.
(BTW, pleeease learn how to use the term "FUD" properly. If you're accusing me of lying, then say so, but any old lie is not "FUD")
Once again, there is no hardware designed with the intention of runnning AmigaOS, apart from maybe the PPC PCI-cards from Matay/Elbox, but they're for the old Amigas so they're rather irrelevant to the petition.
As for the effect of the license on AmigaOS users: Without the license there was a chance that AmigaOS could be made to run on the Pegasos or Barbie or whatever, but the compulsory license has evidently prevented that from happening. Maybe (hah!) someone sometime somewhere will decide to redistribute these "unlicensed" (i.e. normal) products under a license, but without the license all we AmigaOS users would have to hope for was that Amiga Inc./Hyperion made their software run on them - nothing else, there would only be normal technical obstacles.
You have still not provided any "real facts" that differ from what I'm saying, and yet you claim I'm spreading an "inaccurate interpretation" in the post I just replied to here. You just keep arguing against the opinions expressed in the petition. (Let's purely hypothetically say that the summary of the executive update in the petition is indeed an "inaccurate interpretation", then it would still not be as if I'm hiding the "truth" - the presented plans in its original form and exact wording is available via the obvious link to the executive update in the very first paragraph of the petition text. I could of course have included the complete document in the petition, but then I would've been getting nice cease & decist letters from Amiga Inc. and that would've been the end.) |
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