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Posted on 17-Aug-2002 19:55 GMT by cheesegrate165 comments
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On an ANN thread Bill and Raquel comment on their attitude towareds AmigaOS4 and it's appearance on the pegasos.
"If AmigaOS4.0 is fully finished and running natively on a PPC we will be happy for Hyperion and Amiga Inc. Undoubtedly, in this community there will be more than one person who will copy a legally obtained copy of the operating system onto the Pegasos. How will Amiga Inc. stop this? We cannot control this and neither can they. If AmigaOS4.0 becomes what it is claimed to be – great! We will sell a few more Pegasos machines. Thanks Hyperion! We wish them our best. We have absolutely nothing against this effort."

Personally I think that no hardware developers who don't licence the amiga name will pay money for certification to get os4 running on their boards. However because the pegasos and the amiga one share the same northbridge and BIOS (atm), it should not be difficult for a developer to port os4 across to the pegasos. The question is; Will Hyperion and Amiga Inc allow this without wanting money from Bplan/Thendic France? And does it matter?
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Thendic France comment on OS4.0 : Comment 147 of 165ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 20-Aug-2002 07:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 144 (Jürgen Lange):
Jürgen Lange :
>I think that Amiga Inc. had failed to generate enough interest. Most
developers and the remaining resellers are not interested in their
politics anymore.
Most Amiga developers support AmigaOS, including v4. Some of them also support MOS.
Very few support only one of them.
>Amiga Inc. failed to generate interest for AmigaDE.
Well... there is interest, but it is well below the expectations, especially in the Amiga community.
>They never had a real path to incorporate AmigaDE with AmigaOS.
??
I think in the spring of 2001 the roadmap was revealed and DE for AOS was planned in v.4.2 (IIRC).
Latest info is that it will be ported after OS4.0 is finished (=y2003).
>AmigaOS 5? It's vapor by now.
Isn't every product vapor untill it's ready & released? (including OS4userversion, MOSuserversion, pegasosuserversion....)
...
>I do not know, when we will see a real product by Amiga Inc..
Note that AA is a real product.
>Can anyone tell me when AmigaDE will be available?
No.
It will take year(s) before DE full fills things that have been promised in AmigaWorld zines at amiga.com.
In the meanwhile there will be new players and game cartridges.
>Is there anybody who can tell me, when AmigaOne/AmigaOS 4 will be available?
Before christmas... (or so they say at least, well before christmas even)
(I think OS4 for CSPPC might be ready in September, perhaps in shops around October......)
>Or is there anybody who can tell, when Amithlon 2 will be available?
>All these products are not available because of the politics of Amiga Inc.!
That is absolutely not true. (every sane people know it)
>Bill McEwen and Fleecy Moss have payed a lot of money for the brand.
>And they managed to generate some interest for their ideas in the very beginning but they had made a lot of mistakes:
>1. They dropped classic Amiga
Yes. That was a mistake.
>2. They didn't develop AmigaDE to a real product.
I think that is not their fault. Their plan was relying on money from investors but the investiors disappered in IT world slowdown.
>3. They forgot all about hardware independense
That is absolutely not true.
>4. They went back to Classic Amiga
That is not a mistake!!!!!!!!!! (except according to MOS fanatics)
>5. They had no idea about AmigaOne
???
I think they had idea, but that was not enough.
>6. They never learned how to manage a project
IMO: They still can.
>7. They haven't learned about the real world
I think they have learned a lot. I think they will learn more.
There might have been even signs of them learning from the Amiga world.
>If they were able to sell a clean and lean product by now I would buy it
DE or OS or both ?
I think I could easily dig out 20 REAL mistakes that AmigaInc guys have done, but why bother.
>(as I've bought the SDK and the Party Pack, - a big mistake).
THAT was a mistake!! (sorry, just kidding, I could not resist...)
>On the other hand we have Thendic-France having a product.
Only for betaTESTERS.
>Ok, it isn't the "real" Amiga (as Amithlon isn't) but it is a product many
Amiga users and developers will like and it is a product which will be available in the near future.
Time will tell...
r.
priest
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