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| Posted by dammy on 06-Sep-2002 18:29 GMT | In reply to Comment 36 (SlimJim):
Posted by SlimJim (130.235.59.132) on 06-Sep-2002 16:51:23
> Who is most the most blind follower of the name I wonder, - those accepting
> that paying money for a brand means ownership of it,
> or those refusing to call the company anything else but 'Amino' because its
> policies doesn't fit with their own personal vision of what the name 'Amiga'
> should mean?
Except of course, it wasn't a noble cause of buying the Amiga name for the community, to support the community. It was clearly a vehicle for them to establish themselves in a marketplace as "existing" entity that could bring in (and failed) developers by the loads and Venture Capital based on the Fanatics coding night and day for a decent JAVA OS. Once you admit to yourself, it has been about them (Billed&Fleeced), and only about them and their thirst for VC, you can realise that this who "Amiga Kommunity" has been a scam over the easily duped. As the VC funds get tapped out, here comes a new methods of raising capital (coupons) for basically them doing nothing but allowing someone else to take risk.
>Or at least, who is the least childish?
Once you can pry those rose tinted glasses off your face, you may come to understand what I and others have been saying for awhile. But I suppose that's figting some sort of addiction of self delusion so I doubt many of the Faithful Followers Of The Name Cult can do that.
> Most of us that are left are hobbyists.
I'd say most of the hobbiest, the ones without such emotional attachement to the leadership of the current owners of the Amiga trademark, can see just how far so many people have gone off the reservation while following Billed&Fleeced. Those of left on the reservation are either looking at which is best for PPC (HYPEOS4 vs MOS) or opting for AROS and or Bernithlon.
> Sure, we cling to this particular old computer because we like it and hope
> that the new Amiga will be as good. The people that control this future is the
> owners of the brand Amiga, a brand that actually IS worth something -
Worth what and what does this POP Box have to do with Amigas more then a Intel laptop running Berniethlon does? All in all, the laptop sounds like a MUCH better deal.
> it has a reputation that gives a slightly better chance of this thing becoming > at least semi-popular again one day than if we would call it something like - > oh 'Morph' to grab an example from the blue.
I'd say either have about the same chance. Amiga is mostly remembered as a game machine, and that is not going to happen again. If anything, Amiga is a negative as it is associated with annoying fanatics who still think their box is better then a multi GHz x86 box. I'm not saying MOS has any better chance either. I rate both pretty low in survivaliability.
> You may dislike those owners or not, but the fact is that it is not OUR money
> on the line here.
This is entirely true. I just don't like the wave after wave of BS being thrown at the Amiga Community (spelled with a C, not a K) by the current trademark holders nor their subcontracting henchmen.
> We risk nothing but a failure in satisfying our sentimental ambitions. They
> do. (Writing this I realize that those paying the club fee of $50 might not
> agree ;-)
What did PT Barnem say, "There is a sucker born every minute."
> Most accept that this is how it is. AInc can -and will - do whatever they like > to 'our' Amiga, since they have paid for 'the Name' (and some other things)
> and we haven't.
They certainly can do what they wish to do with the name. That does not, nor has it ever, mean they have bought my loyality by purchasing a mear trademark. I'm not plastic enough to accept that arguement. The only product I will purchase that they will see a small royality from is Berniethlon. Other then that, they can go take a long walk off a short pear that is in the middle of shark infested waters.
> The will do what they can to survive.
Again, if they were doing so by what most accept as fair game rules, very few would be bitching. But of course, playing by such socially accepted rules won't generate VC funding for them either.
> Some accept this fact, because it's the only way it can be done.Some don't,
> because of some personal notion of 'Amiga' being a higher etheric notion of
> pure and good and not a piece of ancient computer hardware.
Pity there can't be divorces in such situations as the community now finds itself in with the current owners of the Amiga name. Tao has nothing to do with Amiga nor it's OS. POP mobos have nothing to do with Amiga design and principals. HYPEOS4 and MOS should be compared to on a point by point basis and then allow individuals to decide which they want to buy. Amiga Community wins this way, they get choices. Of course, FFOTNC think such choices are harmfull and only the one true Boing way is acceptable for every true Amiga user.
> So who really comprise the "Name cult" in that crowd?
Go ask to see a raise of hands who bought the $50 coupon...
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