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In a new Amiga editorial for Suite101, John Chandler focusses on the Amiga solutions already available and what we can soon expect from Amiga Inc. Among this are AmigaDE enabled Zaurus PDAs and smartphones, AA availability in mainstream European shops and AmigaOS 4.0 scheduled for a pre-Christmas launch.
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Something for Everyone : Comment 13 of 90ANN.lu
Posted by Mike Bouma on 17-Sep-2002 12:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (DOJ):
> We may see new Amiga Inc. products, we will not see new Amigas.
Amiga is a brand and has always been so. If you personally consider a CDTV not to be an Amiga (it is) or you consider a DraCo be an Amiga (it is not) is besides the point.
> Your comparison with Apple/Macs is irrelevant. The Macs are still
> proprietary designs from the Apple company.
So if only Amiga Inc is allowed to ship Amiga branded products you would considere new Amigas to be Amigas? If you think Apple is developing every Macintosh components by themselves you are living in a dream world BTW.
> Amiga Inc is moving away from that, there will be no new Amigas, just
> AmigaOS and whatever third party hardware it can run on. Please read what
> Amiga Inc itself says.
Do you think Apple creates their own ATI graphic cards? Do you think they create their own DVD-players, etc? The *classic* Amiga is discontinued, but that doesn't mean we will not see new Amigas.
>> Would you prefer it if Amiga Inc tied their software solely to in-house
>> developed hardware?
> NO! Of course not! It's GOOD that there will be no more Amigas!
You are talking about *classic* Amigas.
> But unfortunately the Amiga Inc. lunatics will remove the advantage that
> AmigaOS and we could have gotten, by applying licensing restrictions to our
> hardware.
No, you will be able to use AmigaOS with any Amiga branded hardware. Solutions may become available for non-Amiga branded alternatives as well, of course taking into account consumer demands, availability of hardware specs by the hardware developer (for optimal performance and support) and profits.
> So in effect it's meaningless that we will FINALLY have "generic" third
> party hardware, AmigaOS is still unnecessarily restricted hardware-wise for
> no good reason whatsoever.
Amiga's terms are alot less strict than for instance Apple. They are very receptive for 3rd party deals.
> WTF???? What have you been smoking? Or did I miss a joke here?
Just because you lack insight and insider information that is not a good reason for insulting people.
> What ARE you BABBLING about?? What the hell does that have to do with what I
> said, that DE/AA has nothing to do with any "Amigas"?
As I have repeatably stated before that the future of AmigaOS and AmigaDE (as Amiga Inc would like to see) are linked. The *classic* Amiga is discontinued just like the classic Mac.
> for OS 4.2/4.5 is now included "already" in OS 4.0. I say that this means
> nothing since OS 4.0 is delayed and to be released at the same time or after
> the time that OS 4.2/4.5 was originally intended to be released
Actually this means alot to the readers as what they thought they would get in an update they will now get in the very first release.
> so in practice nothing has changed.
No, by skipping a step, the move to PPC will IMO happen to be more smoothly. Instead of many updates developers/users will imidiately have access to a more complete native PPC environment.
> No, it's the same board as the "commercial" Teron CX.
Which may never have happened without AmigaOS4.
> It's irrelevant.
Well this is what my sources told me, who are close to MAI. The project wasn't moving because solely Linux for the PPC is a hard sell.
> just because I disagree with this Suite101 article?
You did a direct personal attack on me and I despise people like you for such acts. My main job is being a Physical Therapist, this because I love to help people get their ordinary lifes back. The only reason why I write about Amiga and support promising efforts is because many people within the community like me to do so and because I like many features found originally solely in AmigaOS. I cannot keep everyone happy with what I write, but I will never join a FUD campaign, neither against Amiga Inc, Hyperion or bPlan. That is not in my nature, as I can see that children are to be fed with such commercial projects.
IMO I, many Amiga developers and community leaders never deserved to be publicly insulted or ridiculed for our genuine efforts.
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