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In a new Amiga editorial for Suite101, John Chandler focusses on the Amiga solutions already available and what we can soon expect from Amiga Inc. Among this are AmigaDE enabled Zaurus PDAs and smartphones, AA availability in mainstream European shops and AmigaOS 4.0 scheduled for a pre-Christmas launch.
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Posted by DOJ on 17-Sep-2002 12:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Mike Bouma):
>> No, the Amiga is dead and not about to be revived.
> Wrong Amiga Inc is alive and soon we will see new Amiga products,
We may see new Amiga Inc. products, we will not see new Amigas. Your comparison with Apple/Macs is irrelevant. The Macs are still proprietary designs from the Apple company. Amiga Inc is moving away from that, there will be no new Amigas, just AmigaOS and whatever third party hardware it can run on. Please read what Amiga Inc itself says.
>> AmigaOS OTOH will be updated, and it will run on third-party hardware
> Would you prefer it if Amiga Inc tied their software solely to in-house
> developed hardware?
NO! Of course not! It's GOOD that there will be no more Amigas! It's the best thing that could happen to AmigaOS! But unfortunately the Amiga Inc. lunatics will remove the advantage that AmigaOS and we could have gotten, by applying licensing restrictions to our hardware. So in effect it's meaningless that we will FINALLY have "generic" third party hardware, AmigaOS is still unnecessarily restricted hardware-wise for no good reason whatsoever. The effect is unfortunately the same as if there still was only in-house developed hardware.
> Amiga Anywhere and AmigaDE share common APIs and other source code with
> AmigaOS.
WTF???? What have you been smoking? Or did I miss a joke here?
> Go onto a Microsoft websited and tell those people there, that .Net and
> WindowsCE have nothing to do with x86 and MSDOS. Believe me they will laugh
> at you, right in your face! Me too :)
What ARE you BABBLING about?? What the hell does that have to do with what I said, that DE/AA has nothing to do with any "Amigas"?
> [Royal PDAs] I wasn't there. (Was this announced there?)
Yes.
>> So the version number to be used is still 4.0? Yay. What a fantastic job.
> AmigaOS4 is mainly in fact 4.2 as originally planned, but as it will be the
> first release it makes far more sense to be called AmigaOS4 instead. MorphOS
> for instance has also been delayed and will contain more components than
> originally anticipated. Does that mean bPlan has to call their OS MorphOS
> 2.0 instead? You don't make any sense!
You either don't read what I write or understand it. Sorry if I was unclear, but I honestly can't see how you missed this: Chandler said that it's so great that all stuff originally announced for OS 4.2/4.5 is now included "already" in OS 4.0. I say that this means nothing since OS 4.0 is delayed and to be released at the same time or after the time that OS 4.2/4.5 was originally intended to be released, so in practice nothing has changed. I did not complain over that it'll be called 4.0. Get it?
> This isn't the same board as the ultra expensive evaluation board.
No, it's the same board as the "commercial" Teron CX. And BTW, the "evaluation" board was $300 if you could live without developer support.
> The fact is that without AmigaOS4 nothing would have come from it.
"Fact"? "FACT"???? That's your twisted speculation, and it's ridiculous. AmigaOS is a speck on the windshield of the PowerPC/POP world, heck it's a fly egg waiting to be born and become a fly that can become a speck on that windshield. It's irrelevant.
> the orginal ROM should have been enough...
OK, I don't understand how you read people's posts here. You obviously have decided that everyoone's out to disagree with you or attack you. I said nothing of the sort. But now that you mention it, it seems really, really stupid to completely switch from OF to PPCBoot instead of just including the features/updates you want in the more widespread and suppoerted OF. But as you implied, it seems some idiots out there want to be "different" just for the sake of being different.
> The release for AmigaOne and AmigaOS4 is looking good, regardless if you
> like it or not.
Jesus Christ man! Did I comment on those issues? No. OK, you're obviously a zealot, but stop believing that everyone subscribes to a "package of thinking" and belongs to a damn "camp". Am I not allowed to agree that "the release of AmigaOS4 is looking good" (I don't give a shit about the A1, and I shouldn't have to) just because I disagree with this Suite101 article?
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