25-Apr-2024 01:25 GMT.
UNDER CONSTRUCTION
[Web] Interview with Bill M on ExtremetechANN.lu
Posted on 12-Nov-2002 09:12 GMT by dakang (Edited on 2002-11-12 16:57:42 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä)98 comments
View flat
View list
As the title says... http://www.extremetech.com
Straight link to the interview
List of all comments to this article
Sorted by date, most recent at bottom
Comment 1koan12-Nov-2002 08:24 GMT
Comment 2dakang12-Nov-2002 08:27 GMT
Comment 3SlimJim12-Nov-2002 08:30 GMT
Comment 4JoannaK12-Nov-2002 08:44 GMT
Comment 5DaveW12-Nov-2002 08:45 GMT
Comment 6Radfoo12-Nov-2002 09:12 GMT
Comment 7Anonymous12-Nov-2002 09:13 GMT
Comment 8JoannaK12-Nov-2002 09:27 GMT
Comment 9gz12-Nov-2002 09:30 GMT
Comment 10Bladerunner12-Nov-2002 09:31 GMT
Comment 11gz12-Nov-2002 09:50 GMT
Comment 12Anonymous12-Nov-2002 10:15 GMT
Comment 13CyberZorro12-Nov-2002 10:30 GMT
Comment 14JoannaK12-Nov-2002 10:34 GMT
Comment 15Radfoo12-Nov-2002 10:51 GMT
Comment 16Budda12-Nov-2002 10:58 GMT
Comment 17Anonymous12-Nov-2002 11:14 GMT
Comment 18reflect12-Nov-2002 11:20 GMT
Comment 19koan12-Nov-2002 11:40 GMT
Comment 20DaveW12-Nov-2002 11:45 GMT
Comment 21Budda12-Nov-2002 11:48 GMT
Comment 22koan12-Nov-2002 11:57 GMT
Comment 23Ben12-Nov-2002 12:01 GMT
Comment 24Troels E12-Nov-2002 12:04 GMT
Comment 25nOw212-Nov-2002 12:05 GMT
Comment 26LieByLie12-Nov-2002 12:37 GMT
Comment 27gz12-Nov-2002 13:01 GMT
Comment 28.12-Nov-2002 13:02 GMT
Comment 29Alkis Tsapanidis12-Nov-2002 13:08 GMT
Comment 30Bill Hoggett12-Nov-2002 13:14 GMT
Comment 31redrumloa12-Nov-2002 13:30 GMT
Comment 32Menthos12-Nov-2002 13:30 GMT
Comment 33Alkis Tsapanidis12-Nov-2002 13:34 GMT
Comment 34JoannaK12-Nov-2002 13:37 GMT
Comment 35Tony12-Nov-2002 13:38 GMT
Comment 36Menthos12-Nov-2002 13:50 GMT
Comment 37Alkis Tsapanidis12-Nov-2002 13:51 GMT
Comment 38redrumloa12-Nov-2002 13:56 GMT
Comment 39Bill Hoggett12-Nov-2002 14:03 GMT
Comment 40Tony12-Nov-2002 14:04 GMT
Comment 41reflect12-Nov-2002 14:22 GMT
Comment 42priest12-Nov-2002 14:57 GMT
Comment 433seas12-Nov-2002 15:06 GMT
Comment 44Si12-Nov-2002 15:07 GMT
Comment 45catohagen12-Nov-2002 15:27 GMT
Comment 46Phill12-Nov-2002 15:28 GMT
Comment 47o1i12-Nov-2002 15:30 GMT
Comment 48Turrican12-Nov-2002 15:57 GMT
Comment 49turtle on quaaludes12-Nov-2002 16:20 GMT
Comment 50pixie12-Nov-2002 16:24 GMT
Comment 51pixie12-Nov-2002 16:25 GMT
Comment 52Szutoman12-Nov-2002 16:36 GMT
Comment 53@anonymous12-Nov-2002 16:58 GMT
Comment 54JoannaK12-Nov-2002 16:58 GMT
Comment 55pixie12-Nov-2002 17:08 GMT
Comment 56anonymous12-Nov-2002 17:10 GMT
Comment 57Don Cox12-Nov-2002 17:28 GMT
Comment 58Don Cox12-Nov-2002 17:33 GMT
Comment 59AmigaSource12-Nov-2002 17:55 GMT
Comment 60yoodoo12-Nov-2002 17:56 GMT
Comment 61Snaz_8912-Nov-2002 17:59 GMT
Comment 62Frodon12-Nov-2002 18:26 GMT
Comment 63AmigaSource12-Nov-2002 18:52 GMT
Comment 64szutoman12-Nov-2002 18:56 GMT
Comment 65KenH12-Nov-2002 19:00 GMT
Interview with Bill M on Extremetech : Comment 66 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by PaulT on 12-Nov-2002 19:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Bill Hoggett):
I have to disagree strongly with a point that isn't that important :)
>> As much BS was in the interview, the 7 million Amigas wasnt one of them.
>> He simply stated that many were sold, and that in and of itself is true.
>The 7 million was mentioned twice. I'm referring to this bit:
>"The Amiga stuff is designed for the Amiga community, the 7 million systems >sold."
>Taken in context it gives the impression that the Amiga community - those who >would be interested in the new AmigaOS - are 7 million strong.
As others have pointed out, the difference is between what you are assuming from blindly listening to a salesman, and what the words actually SAY. The salesman would like to show his (our) history in the best possible light. If 7 million Amigas were sold, that means only that. The community? Well, including machines I've bought for spares and 8510s, I've bought 5, and been deeded a couple of more for free. Typical? who knows?
His statement IN NO WAY can be reasonably interpreted as stating that there are or ever were 7 million Amigans, it's inviting you to make your estimate of users based on machines sold.
-Lots of machines, for instance in families, had multiple users.
-If I bought a used 1200 from someone who was moving on, and I wasn't already an Amiga user but he was quitting it, did that increase the number of users? -Does the "community" mean all those who have ever used one extensively or exclusively for some period of time? That number at least would have to be in the millions.
Sniping at the pure salesman stuff should be the least of our targets. Stating that the OS is 2 or 3 weeks from release, when he has said that he'll hype no product before it ships, now THAT is reprehensible. But I (only judging from publically available information and opinions of others) see Amiga Inc as on the ropes financially and desperately needing to keep its image afloat, so I figure it's as usual the 'optimistic - if all goes perfect' viewpoint being floated, as opposed to realism in the software industry. The latter is:
Take each shipping estimate;
Double it;
Change to the next larger unit of time!
Jump...
TopPrevious commentNext commentbottom
List of all comments to this article (continued)
Comment 67DaveW12-Nov-2002 19:39 GMT
Comment 68gz12-Nov-2002 20:03 GMT
Comment 69DaveW12-Nov-2002 20:05 GMT
Comment 70ExiE12-Nov-2002 20:10 GMT
Comment 71Anonymous12-Nov-2002 20:14 GMT
Comment 72gz12-Nov-2002 20:35 GMT
Comment 73Leif12-Nov-2002 21:01 GMT
Comment 74JoannaK12-Nov-2002 21:10 GMT
Comment 75gz12-Nov-2002 21:17 GMT
Comment 76KenH12-Nov-2002 21:27 GMT
Comment 77KenH12-Nov-2002 21:31 GMT
Comment 78strobe12-Nov-2002 21:46 GMT
Comment 79Leif12-Nov-2002 22:05 GMT
Comment 80DaveW12-Nov-2002 22:06 GMT
Comment 81strobe12-Nov-2002 22:15 GMT
Comment 82gz12-Nov-2002 22:15 GMT
Comment 83strobe12-Nov-2002 22:26 GMT
Comment 84strobe12-Nov-2002 22:28 GMT
Comment 85smp26612-Nov-2002 22:45 GMT
Comment 86Frans12-Nov-2002 22:53 GMT
Comment 87Rob12-Nov-2002 23:11 GMT
Comment 88amorel12-Nov-2002 23:47 GMT
Comment 89DaveW13-Nov-2002 08:04 GMT
Comment 90Bill Hoggett13-Nov-2002 11:53 GMT
Comment 91Rob13-Nov-2002 17:30 GMT
Comment 92Rob13-Nov-2002 17:38 GMT
Comment 93Rob13-Nov-2002 17:52 GMT
Comment 94KenH13-Nov-2002 18:02 GMT
Comment 95Keith Blakemore-Noble13-Nov-2002 21:50 GMT
Comment 96gz13-Nov-2002 21:53 GMT
Comment 97strobe14-Nov-2002 04:50 GMT
Comment 98Anonymous14-Nov-2002 16:59 GMT
Back to Top