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Posted on 15-Nov-2002 21:36 GMT by redrumloa (Edited on 2002-11-16 07:21:47 GMT by Christian Kemp)59 comments
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Think back to the 90's. What do you remember? Nirvana, gangster rap, Vanilla Ice and... Amiga Web Directory. Wow, that sure brings you back right? But what does AWD have to do with Amiga.org's outage? Read on
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The reason for Amiga.org's outage is revealed.. : Comment 35 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by 3seas on 16-Nov-2002 16:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Wayne Hunt):
Wayne wrote:
"Update: The original poster of the images contacted me to state that he
had received said images on a Zip disk given to him by Don Hicks (formerly
owner/editor of the Amazing Amiga (?) Magazine) at the Gateway 97 show."
I see a claim, as often happens in the Amiga community, without proof
presented. But if Don Hicks wants to speak up in support of this, then
responsibility falls on his shoulders. Does Don Hicks have the permission
to pass along such photos for others to use? Being the person Don Hicks
is, certainly experienced as being, a publisher and editor, I'm sure he
understands the issues.
All things considered, this matter should be seen as a learning experience
for all who are involved and watching. Especially in light of the on going
IP bitch slapping of Amiga history....
There is another issue that has come to mind due to this matter. Many of
us involved in the online amiga oriented communications are aware of a
party, be it an individual(s) or group(s), that have pursued trashing
people and works in ways considered to be against the intent of the laws.
Acts of cracking web sites to forging posts to perhaps manipulating lines
of communication, such as the reported act of monopolizing Amiga Inc.
phone lines.
At this point in time I see such acts as being more supportive of
providing an excuse for failure rather than being a contributor to
failure. I mean if you are going to fail anyways, having such an excuse
only helps you stay on life support longer.
Personally I didn't notice Amiga.org was down until I saw the thread of
real reason why Amiga.org was down for three days. And this makes me
wonder if anyone else really noticed until after the fact of it getting
back online.
I do not condone such forgery, site cracking, etc., but rather recognize
it as being counter productive to it's surface appearance intent, and
against the law.
I suppose it was what Wayne, and perhaos a few others, have been saying about
Kevin. The question comes to mind..... Does Kevin have some inside information
regarding such acts?
Ultimately the direction of Amiga seems to be headed towards perhaps what is
best described as a secret cult club. Where to become a member you have to
prove yourself worthy of a given membership level. Not being involved in such,
I cannot begin to speculate as to what the membership rules are but can only
see what everyone else can see, from outside. And that is simply "excluded".
Jump...
#57 Kevin Hisel
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