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[Rant] Good old times, where are thou?ANN.lu
Posted on 05-Dec-2002 15:03 GMT by A Reminder52 comments
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Okay, so now everyone has got his/her very own opinion about all the mess occuring in the Amiga community nowadays (AmigaOS4 vs MorphOS1, AmigaInc/Eyetech/Hyperion vs Thendic/bplan, Bernie vs Harald/H&P, hackers/users/developers/dealers vs Elbox... urgh... who'll be the next??). Every fscking single day there's a new reason that tend to split us all, in a sort of all-against-all war ("I'm on a mission/I made my decision/To lead a path of self destruction" just like the Green Day sung... why can't everyone sit down, relax, bury the hatchet and try to be more constructive, d'oh).
But what if I don't wanna join the rat race? Yeh, I'm very happy with my good ol' hw (Blizz/Cyber+PPC/Vision) and I only wanna update my sw. So, when/where will I be able to buy the new AmigaOS and/or MorphOS and how much will they cost?
When will an official list of features be made available and definitive so that I can choose which one fits my needs the most?
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Good old times, where are thou? : Comment 38 of 52ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 07-Dec-2002 05:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Nathaniel Downes):
Couple corrections...
>AmigaOS4:
>ExecSG, adding things like memory protection and 68k emulation/AGA emulation to
AmigaOS4 does not have any chipset emulation, Only JIT-68k (petunia).. it should be possible to run UAE atop of it, like it's possible on MOS today.
> Still has 68k libraries
Question remains open. There's no firm date announced for deliveries, so there's no way of knowing what will be inclded in NativePPC.
> AmigaONE:
>Soldiered-on G3 CPU or G4 CPU
This depends on model.. Less expensive (se) has 600Mhz G3 directly soldered, expensive ones have some kind of connector to CPU modules (G3/G4?)
> Known memory problems, can only use registered sDRAM from key suppliers.
Have not heard enough.. I assume this will be public after real production and sales one day begins..
> AC97 sound and MC97 modem
SE: couple copper traces from South bridge to AMR slot. No real hardware.
XE: Is supposed to have working Audio on board, but no modem.
> 4 PCI slots, 66Mhz 32-bit.
3 slots on one bus are 33MHZ/32bit.
One 66MHZ slot shares same bus as AGP, so be careful with it.
> custom made BIOS
With no user expandability ...
> MorphOS
>New kernel, called Quark. Microkernel, offering distributed computing. Runs >Amiga software by using a legacy-box, called A-Box. Similar in approach to OS/2 >or MacOS X.
That distribute part I'm not so sure. But It may well be there.
> PPC-native AmigaOS library replacements, offering about 90% compatability.
Anythign retargettable (AHI / Gfx libs) stuff ought to work.. Don't support HW bashing programs.
>68k emulator for legacy programs, no hardware emulation.
Jit-compiling 68k emulator is part of OS.
UAEMUI is known to work. With usual UAE emulation limitations (like Aga support)
> Includes MUI
I think there is native PPC-port of it...
> Includes an Arexx replacement
Not seen one yet.. Though heard rumours.
>Pegasos:
>Artica-S chipset w/ bug fix classified as "April" along with a VIA VT8231 >southbridge.
These fixes and ArticaS-bugs need more details on both boards.
> Can only use registered sDRAM DIMM's.
I would assume this Dimm usability more or less same as with Aone.. But there can be small issues consernign different board layouts etc
You have missed Built-in ethernet (10/100 mbit)
> Built-in 56k modem
Not certain.. this one has been quite debatable.. But I expect we hear more soon.
> Built-in Sigmatel STAC 9766 sound chip
Should have full AHI support on MOS
Pegasos has OF (OpenFirmware) boor flash with user access and expandability.
Jump...
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