[News] AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems | ANN.lu |
Posted on 15-Dec-2002 16:45 GMT by herb | 171 comments View flat View list |
In Amiga.org thread "AmigaOne G3SE is here! now!" someone reports they got their new AmigaOne on Thursday and others say their Swedish dealer has them now for deliver on next Tuesday. Some problems are reported with IDE connectors and stability.
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"my local (well swedish atleast) dealer has got the first batch SEs! That means that all the people that has ordered a A1Se from GGSDATA in sweden will have their A1s by Tuesday!"
"The newer IDE connectors have a pin missing and the cables also lack a hole for it. Apparently the A1 has IDe connectors with all pins so you have to have a cable with all holes or you have to bend a pin."
"btw DMA is enabled but is a little unstable atm so easier to have it switched off. It is being worked on... A number of developers have it sorted but it hasn't quite reached us 'normal' folk yet."
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Posted by sibbi on 16-Dec-2002 14:21 GMT | In reply to Comment 88 (dammy): Just to remind everyone, hardware is hardly ever bug free.
One old example of an hardware bug was the REV 1.D revision of the a1200 motherboard which had timing issues with the trapdoor slot. This problem didn't really "come out" (as in being discovered) until users started putting accelerators in the trapdoor with sufficient speed to make the bug known. C= then made a hardware fix (which involved some wires and traces) and shipped it to dealers, this was in 93 with massively simpler hardware in all regards...
The DMA problem with the 686B is not new, it can be circumvented, there are other fixes than completely disabling DMA (as some seem to think), but at the moment, at least with linux this seems like an easy fix for the timebeing until a better solution which works with LinuxPPC is released. How to do this has already been posted in another message (it involes passing ide=nodma to the kernel when the kernel is loaded).
Bugs in linux drivers are hardly new (even on X86 machines), quite often linux drivers have issues, porting drivers between architechtures isn't exactly trivial work, and people just have to have a little patience while these bugs are being worked out.
Nobody, neither Eyetech nor Hyperion has at any stage to my knowledge, denied that there is a DMA bug in the 686B (seeing as it's public knowledge), nor have they made any claims that their hardware is 100% bug free, they have however stated that all !known bugs! are being circumvented in one way or the other (either in hardware or software). What is it exactly that people want? A redesign of the board to somehow hardware circumvent the 686B bug would be very expensive at this stage, and imho, it's not neccesary.
This (imho silly) bickering between the two seemingly distant groups (Pegasos/Morphos and AmigaOne/OS4) is unneccesary, splitting up the community and causing everyone to loose faith in both parties. |
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