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| Posted on 18-Dec-2002 08:56 GMT by Piru | 55 comments
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Remember the days H&P was still alive and kicking?
Remember the WarpUP vs. PowerUP wars?
Remember the days of speculation about new hardware and OS?
Here is a massive but entertaining thread from the past. Several personalities from the "camps" of today posted in it. Funnily maybe the biggest player back then - H&P - is somewhat out of the game now, but some of the players remain.
If you read that thread now, remember these issues:
- StormC as a compiler is dead. StormC use GCC now.
- EHF (extended hunk format) is dead, ELF is the future (used in both OS4 and MOS).
- H&P 68k emulation never surfaced.
- WarpUP ramlib crashes were due to opening disk based libraries in LibInit of the library and thus causing recursive ramlib calls and stack overflow, not due to some "anti-warpup" code.
[sidenote: Current Warp3D *still* crash due to these OpenLibrary calls when it open its' sub-lib in LibInit, unless you have ramlib stack patched. There is a easy way to fix these crashes, open the sublibs in LIB_OPEN...]
- There now is a system that run 68K, WOS & PUP apps on PPC only hardware.
I'm not saying that you should be able to predict the future, but some guys seem to have been right more than 50% of the time.
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| Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 18-Dec-2002 20:28 GMT | In reply to Comment 27 (Steffen Haeuser):
> > Steffen, you'd like to sue too many people, I suggest you to calm down,
> > cause in the end this attitude can only hurt yourself.
> And I assume you would just accept if someone calls you "incompetent" or
> "stupid" or other insults?
Saying that you are incompetent is not an insult, it's just an opinion, although it may become an insult if said in a certain way. Saying that you're stupid is indeed an insult, but then you didn't do any better by answering the way you did.
I've been insulted too, but that didn't make me react the way you did. Bear in mind that you won't be able to change the minds of the people that insults you by insulting them back, you'll only achieve the goal of making people who esteem you change their minds.
And let me remind you that I've been treaded unpolitely by you without having insulted you first, or anything like that.
> Well, unless you patch LoadSeg & C. that's the only way to do it, even with
> WarpOS.
> Exactly, and this is why I did not like ppc.library back then... at the start
> it did NOT have such a patch.
Excuse me, Steffen, are you really serious? Are you really saying that the fact that ppc.library didn't patch LoadSeg made you dislike it so much? You DO realize that patching a library's function with one other function that is _already_ implemented (by runelf, or however it's called) is a joke, right? You could have made that program yourself, if you liked. That _cannot_ be a valid reason to discredit a system in favour of another one. |
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