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Posted on 03-Feb-2003 22:33 GMT by catohagen69 comments
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IBrowse 2.3 falsely claims MorphOS system is using AmigaOS.
Particularily misleading since MorphOS systems are reported as running AmigaOS 4.0 !!.

There exists a crude hack that just replace all "AmigaOS" strings with "MorphOS", and
"3.1", "3.5" and "3.9" with "1.1" or "1.2". Better solution should be provided by the IBrowse authors.

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Serious bug in IBrowse 2.3 : Comment 59 of 69ANN.lu
Posted by gary_c on 05-Feb-2003 00:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 57 (AnonX):
> I like mos, but its a deadend waiting to happen

This might be true; the odds against any tech startup are really high. Of course, AmigaOS and the AmigaOne have pretty much the same destiny awaiting them. The differences are that, from indications so far, the Pegasos and MOS are more advanced tech and have wider aspirations, and the Amiga products have the name association to try to leverage and the dual front of AmigaDE and AmigaOS.

Look at it this way: both Pegasos and the Amiga One will be able to run most 68x apps. Beyond that, where is the future course? How well will either of them be able to expand out of the core of already-sold fans running existing programs? How well will either be able to attract new users and developers? How quickly will the OSs be able to get new PPC native applications (at which point the two platforms will really diverge)? How well will each be able to leverage its technology into various niches? Both face the same challenges in this area.

Of course Amiga, Inc. supporters generally respond by bringing up the melding of AmigaDE and AmigaOS. As I've tried to describe in the past, I don't see how this strengthens the proprietary Amiga platform. It seems to me, the more AmigaDE is pushed by Amiga, Inc., the more irrelevant AmigaOS becomes. If Amiga, Inc. is encouraging developers to target AmigaDE, and AmigaDE runs on Windows, etc., what is the motivation for any end user to buy an Amiga One? The attraction of an alternative platform is to get something you don't have with the mainstream platform. AmigaDE nullifies that effect, so at best it's neutral for AmigaOS and at worst (and most likely) it's a strong negative. In regard to hardware, there is no real Amiga hardware, but generic hardware dongled to run AmigaOS, so it isn't really a part of the equation unless you are an investor or owner of Eyetech.

On the Pegasos side, they are banking on hardware sales to Linux users (or more generally, opening up Pegasos for as full a range of OS platforms as possible), embedded applications in various form factors, as well as sales to what's left of the Amiga market. As I understand it, Genesi has other products that can contribute to cash flow and can be leveraged, but I don't know how well these are doing.

Was I unfair or did I miss some important things? Feel free to add to the lists (but not flame pointlessly, please). Please consider potential dead-ends in the light of these various factors.

-- gary_c
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