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Posted on 18-Feb-2003 06:32 GMT by Senex (Edited on 2003-02-18 22:49:10 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä)41 comments
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As Paul Qureshi reports on the Amiga-SA-ML this year's alt.WOA-show is postponed indefinitly: Evening all.

Just got word from HAUG that the alt.WoA (a.k.a. Hudderfeild) show has
been put off for now. Bad news indeed, I myself was rather looking
foreward to it.

I'll explain some of the reasoning why this decision was made.
Originally, the HAUG committee agreed to do the show with Amiga and
Eyetech, with Eyetech underwriting the cost. This was on the premise
that the AmigaOne would be ready for the show. In fact, Amiga wanted the
show to be called "The AmigaOne Show", not least to keep Thendic and the
Pegasos away.

However, last week Amiga made it clear that OS4 may well not be ready by
April 26th, the show date. They are still waiting for money from their
Microsoft deal, with which to pay Hyperion to work on OS4. In the mean
time, Hyperion must concentrate on other projects to bring money in.

They delay, in case you are interested, is supposedly because the
manufacturers of the cartridges that the Amiga Anywhere games are to
ship on has not actually manufactured any yet.

Anyway, needless to say when this came out many people were not happy.
Amiga, specifically Fleecy Moss, wanted the show to go ahead anyway. The
argument was that Linux would provide a good backup plan so even if OS4
was not done, things would not be a total wash out. However, it was
clear that those organising the show were only interested in OS4, and
didn't really want to put on a show for Linux people. Thus, HAUG decided
not to go ahead until OS4 was finished and actually ready to ship.

I must say, my oppinion of Fleecy Moss seems to fall a bar every time I
speak to him. I completly understand the Hudderfield crew's point of
view. I can't speak for the other involved user groups, but WOASE 2003
is also rather dependent on OS4 being available, because after last year
it's clear that without it any UK show will fail.

Time to jack it all in?

Paul
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alt.WOA 2003 postponed indefinitly : Comment 41 of 41ANN.lu
Posted by FOREMATT on 21-Feb-2003 13:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Bill Hoggett):
As one of the "other" retailers concerned, I have to say that the cancelled show is quite a concern. We have been attending these small User Group shows since the end of the big WOA shows. In fact we were one of the first dealers to attend one before the likes of Eyetech or Amiga Inc decided they were big enough to show an interest.

None of these shows ever had an OS4 or an AmigaOne to buy. Although this is certainly an attraction for most people (and attendance has been falling accordingly), it may come as a shock to learn that some people do actually turn up and use the opportunity to look at and buy the software and hardware peripherals that ARE still being produced (Subway/Highway/FXPaint/Quake2/Software Tycoon/Tales of Tamar) to name a few. For some people this is the only time they get to see us and the other dealers to buy these. Not everybody is on the net or likes buying on it! As well as a chance to get some much needed help and information from dealers and of course the User Groups who put alot of effort into helping and educating people.

I will be honest and tell you that the 2 UK shows a year make up a substantial amount of our annual turnover (which is less than most of you would get out of bed for!). I will probably get flamed for this but as the show has been cancelled we have put on sale at www.forematt.co.uk to shift some of the stuff we were expecting to sell at the show, as well as having to look at non-Amiga items for the first time since starting the company. My personal concern is that now that a second show has been cancelled (Kickstart was first to go) this may give the message to the "amiga public" that it is all over and they may not then attend when(if) it does go ahead in the future.

This is by no means a dig at the organisers as I know that the decision was based on several factors beyond their control and I am sure it was a hard one to make. I am just telling you like it is for one of the handful of Amiga dealers still hanging on to this sharply decling market.

Oh, somebody mentioned that the Amiga market was still strong in the UK, please verify this to my bank manager, thank you.

John Wilson
Owner
FOREMATT Home Computing
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