| [News] Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 | ANN.lu |
| Posted on 21-Feb-2003 19:45 GMT by Senex | 318 comments
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As Genesi announces on MorphOS-News.de, the next Pegasos-I-boards will go on sale on Monday:
To Whom it May Concern:
The Pegasos will go on sale Monday.
There are 300 to sell and 100 that will go to MorphOS Developers and Employees.
If interested to purchase a Pegasos mainboard or fully configured machine:
1. Contact your Distributor
2. Contact Phoenix
3. Contact Genesi
When these are sold there will not be another release until August/September 2003. The next release, the Pegasos II, will have double data rates, three 1 Gb/s ethernet channels, and Dual G4s. Genesi will not release a new version until then.
We want everyone to understand this before they purchase the Pegasos available now. All Betatester boards will be exchanged with the first priority.
An upgrade credit will be offered to Pegasos I buyers. The Pegasos I will not have a G4 upgrade.
Thank you and best regards,
Genesi
Note: Please contact Genesi directly to get your replacement board with April chipset (if you haven't done so far). Thank you.
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| Posted by AdmV on 22-Feb-2003 14:37 GMT | Ok, hold on to your hats.
Ben Hermans:
Kindly wind your neck in and shut your mouth. You are not in a position to attack another company. Given your OWN position, failure to deliver, and associated links with companies who have failed to deliver, your public act of propaganda and damage infliction upon your competitor is the act of a wanker.
Genesi:
Firstly, I think that it has been a reasonable act and honest of you to make a clear announcement. It is also fair that you have given some insight as to your future plans.
However, again, it is clear that the Pegasos is now a disaster. Both for you and many prospective customers. After many of the claims made regarding your pegasos and even given your hard work in fixing issues your team discovered, questions remain as to why you now have trouble with supply from MAI when by all accounts Eyetech do not. (This is still debatable. Eyetech are also late/not delivering, but let us put that aside)
Is it not time that you made a public 'death bed vigil' for your customers regarding the pegasos? If you open the inside information as to the failure, people may be understanding. I am willing to believe your failure is due to outside influence, but not without some information. This information may indeed help build a case for people to recognise your fine efforts despite the project failure.
Now, onto the future system. It took you 12 months or more to carry out your testing period on Pegasos. Now you issue this decree that the new version will be out in 4 months, with a quite severe change of specification. I am not a prospective customer. But IF I were, I would really like to know:
"When these are sold there will not be another release until August/September 2003. The next release, the Pegasos II, will have double data rates, three 1 Gb/s ethernet channels, and Dual G4s. Genesi will not release a new version until then."
Who/How/where have you found technology partners to provide these changes. Perhaps I am wrong but if you had trouble finding technology partners for the SDRAM controller/northbridge and fix issues with any prospective board/bios/firmware issues? Perhaps you have found a chipset manufacturer who can do this, but I suspect that is not the case. In addition, Dual processors ? Gigabyte ethernet controller, three gigabyte ethernet channels. Well, the spec is certainly at least interesting.
But here is my query. How do you consider that I would trust you to produce this when it took you 12 months to produce a far simpler design using a single cpu, sdram, and low tech ethernet options. Unless you have found an off the peg solution I think you are basically lying. This has the look and feel of a smokescreen and a nasty one. Now I could be wrong. You could have licensed this from apple or a supplier that can supply Apple-alike technology, but I don't think so. And you have nothing like the engineering to do this yourself.
So I sit here today as usual. I have one company who publicly admit their failure in an area. I have customers from both sides acting as 'foot soldiers'. I have Ben Hermans acting the idiot. And I have Genesi publishing a new plan that is far fetched, so far fetched at this time, with this information available, its frankly not credible. I cannot see the OS support from MOS being credible either relating to the newboard.
So some questions remain, and there HAS to be some kind of answer to these for credibility to be restored:
1. What ACTUALLY happened between MAI and Genesi. Eyetech seem to be getting supply from MAI.
2. Where are you going to get your technological supplies and chipsets from for this new DDR system?
3. How can anyone take your timescales as credible?
4. With the pegasos project now laying in a smoking ruins, and your reputation also in the same state, when can we expect to see people replaced/fired regarding these failures. Or will it be the same team leading you to the next disaster?
5. I fail to see how you have not chosen the IBM PPC 970 cpu in your spec. Its bandied around as being the future (Not by me. IBM and the 970 will simply not be in the same desktop market as the motorola PPC chips) but some would believe so.
Also, is there any hope that you companies will ever work together, or will I still be making my case in 12 months time as each company creates disaster, after disaster, after disaster?
I suppose I will. None of the Eyetech/Hyperion/AmigInc brigate have anything to shout about. The performance from both of these efforts are a complete shambles. The public slanging matches merely enhance the view of a complete and utter lack of professionalism, and it is a disgrace.
If Genesi really have found MAI have got serious problems/supply problems, are we once again about to see another project (Eyetech) also announce a new (noncredible) specifiation and new machine available in only a few short months?
It is not credible that these two projects/efforts/teams can create TWO operating systems, and TWO disperate hardware platforms, and have some form of success. Even IF they were JUST trying to create either hardware, OR software the likelyhood of any success is absolutely minimal.
Again, I will ask a simple question. WHY are these groups making a dire idiotic mistake of duplication of effort across hardware, and software, using only half the available resources, and aiming thus for HALF the custom. Its idiotically stupid beyond description. And one further question. If Genesi are working on some modular hardware idea this kinda breaks that up badly. Its not like a dual processor, DDR, triple Gigabyte ethernet platform really fits as a set top box, at least to me. But then I think differently to most it seems.
As ever, I am agast at the announcement. I remain in a bemused state as the camps spend endless time and effort in public sniping, and useless debate. And as I have said many times recently, 'Trust no one'.
Its another joke played on the amiga 'sphere' and no sign of an end to this sick joke. If people were wise, they would desert these companies on mass until better sense prevails.
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