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[Rant] Open letter to Fleecy Moss and Amiga, Inc.ANN.lu
Posted on 18-Mar-2003 15:16 GMT by Seehund83 comments
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I sent Amiga, Inc. and Fleecy Moss an open letter in response to his statements on AmigaWorld.net and in Total Amiga Magazine about the hardware market restrictions imposed on AmigaOS. You can read it here.
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Open letter to Fleecy Moss and Amiga, Inc. : Comment 29 of 83ANN.lu
Posted by Gregg on 18-Mar-2003 17:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (anonymous):
> This is patently stupid.

Uhh... "This" being your note, or the original post? Ambiguity is the hobgoblin of small minds - or something...

> Those that object to this measure have their own ulterior motives

They do? Oh. How perspicacious of you.

> and none of them provide a convincing argument why anti-piracy provisions should be eliminated:

Damn right, buster. Nor have they provided a convincing argument why context-switching should be eliminated - perhaps because that's a specious issue too?

Tell me, what is the visual equivalent of sticking one's fingers in one's ears and going "Wah wah wah wah wahhh can't hear you!"? You certainly seem well-practised in it.

> 2. The requirement dissuades companies from developing additional Amiga solutions: the licensing agreement is not onerous, the reality is that there are no vendors lining up and showing interest in producing additional hardware. No one has abandoned the market as a result of this requirement.

This is an idiotic claim. There is not alternative to OS4-with-"dongle", so it is inherently impossible to demonstrate that the OS4 "dongle" has *not* dissuaded others from "producing additional hardware"; on the other hand, there is plenty of circumstantial evidence that the dongle *has* dissuaded several interested parties.

> 3. Anti-piracy measures are futile: there are certainly no guarantees that any anti-piracy solution will be effective in the long run but it does allow the existing vendors to transparently protect their investment.

Investment in what? A failed motherboard design? Just to point out the bleeding obvious yet again, Eyetech and Amiga Inc. are separate companies; AI has no business trying to protect an individual Amiga-oriented retailer at the expense of all other retailers and all erstwhile customers.

If OS investment is your point, there are numerous software-only anti-pirating measures that self-evidently provide no barrier to other hardware manufacturers AND HENCE MORE OS SALES.

But then, you've ignored all these arguments multiple times already, so why am I wasting my time presenting them again? Rhetorical question.

> 4. Moral outrage: OS4 is a commercial product, not freeware or open source. If you have a fundamental issue with anti-piracy measures then this solution is not for you -- there are ample alternatives.

Again, "Wah wah wah...". Seehund (and many others) have repeatedly, explicitly and clearly stated that this is not an objection to anti-piracy measures. As has also been said before, the fact that Amiga Inc. officers and assorted anonymous idiots stubbornly raise this canard time after time suggests that they think this gives them a leg to stand on when everybody else can see that they are already up to their necks in the quicksand (excuse the mixed metaphors, please).

> 5. You're a MOS troll: let's face it, anti-piracy measures don't prevent you from running OS4 on your Pegasos, Genesi does - and the MOS/Pegasos tandem is virtually identical -- you may not have anti-piracy measures built in to the hardware but you're buying the operating system and the hardware from the same source.

Bingo! You just completed the full set. Here's yer £5, now bugger off back to your pit of drooling senility.

Gregg
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