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Posted on 03-May-2003 13:23 GMT by Amigan (Edited on 2003-05-03 16:30:31 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä)54 comments
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Here is another no payment, we must to know ALL THE TRUTH, not only that BBRV wants to say for his interest and bussines. If you don´t know, Bill Buck was the man behind VISCORP. Clik here
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What about this? : Comment 45 of 54ANN.lu
Posted by Ferry on 06-May-2003 10:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (bbrv):
bbrv> We call you Sammy II now...

Any pun or rudeness intended? I think I have been very polite until now.

In a previous comment you say:

"All the details were reported accurately and fully. Check your sources."

This is the first thing I have done: I have checked every single link I have found over the net regarding the question, and I have found that an explanation was not given until the Amiga-News interview, 5 or 6 years later. Of course, I can be mistaken. If so, please give some links where I can find this information, other than these two contradictory statements:

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~cyberwlf/texts/press/VIScorpCacelContract.html

and

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~cyberwlf/texts/press/VISCorpStoryLiquidation.html

That´s why I posted what I found (only official statements, not opinion articles, although I found many of them), waiting for explanations from an authorized source.

bbrv> Buying Amiga Technologies was not the same as buying a few bananas. It was a bit more complicated. Here are some facts:

I can understand it was not easy, and, after reading all the information I have found and the one you have kindly posted, I can glimpse that you made your best to closed the deal the good way, despite the bad finalization, incluing personal sacrifices, like paying AT salaries from your own pocket.

Also, thank you for the facts, but they DO NOT CHANGE the fact that you CLAIMED you had bought the company IP, AT and related stuff:

From your Open Message to the Amiga Community, " 3. The final (and last of three) purchase contract was signed on Friday,19 July. It cannot be changed; it has been executed. The intellectual property of the former Commodore and the inventory of the former Amiga Technologies will be owned finally by VIScorp. The final paperwork will be completed in the next 30 days."

As far as many of us, the users, understood that was a closed deal, and I can give you MANY links of dissapointed users who thought Viscorp was the new owner of Amiga, so it's understandable that some of them are reluctant to believe statements from the person who made previous unnacurated, and later unexplained, statements.

On the other hand, I must say that, at least for me, not only words count, but facts.

Best regards,

Ferrán.

PS:
bbrv> As they greeted each other Raquel told him we could not pay more than $20 million!!! Helmut and I were shocked (that was not the plan!), but even more surprised two seconds later when Hembach said OK and ask Raquel if she wanted coffee!!!

He, he, good move :-)
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