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Posted on 04-Jun-2003 15:17 GMT by Alkis Tsapanidis (Edited on 2003-06-04 17:45:37 GMT by Christophe Decanini)154 comments
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The Pegasos II price has now been announced.
The options are the following: G3 at 299 and G4 at 499 (Tax excl.).
Additionally there's the option to exchange the Pegasos1 with a
Pegasos 2 with a G4 at the expense of 200E or buy the G4 card alone
at the same price.

More info at: MorphOS-News.de
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Pegasos II price! : Comment 138 of 154ANN.lu
Posted by Samface on 05-Jun-2003 21:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 136 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
All they did was hardware expansion boards, you know. Sure, the made very good ones, the best in the business. But let's not exaggerate things beyond that. There's alot more to a computer besides hardware.

Besides, it's not like they never failed to deliver things they promised. I remember a certain infamous "Caipirinha" chipset based A/Box computer with up to two PowerPC processors at speeds from 150 to 533MHz and a 64-bit processor bus speed at 100MHz. Not only did they release a detailed feature set of this at that time very impressive machine, it was also said that they would have an AmigaOS compatible OS to go with it. It was planned to be released sometime during the second half of 1997. I don't know what happened to it but somehow it was forgotten about.

Then in March, 1999, they announced G3/G4 accelerator cards for A1200 & A4000 owners for which they even accepted prepayments and kept on accepting up to the day they went bancrupt in September, 2000. I'm glad I wasn't one of those who prepaid since I doubt anyone ever got a refund.

But like I said, I don't doubt their hardware engineering skills. However, they, just like about everyone else in the Amiga business, has had their problems with marketing and cooperation on the Amiga market.

You know, this really pinpoints my biggest problem with Genesi et all; the lack of willingness to cooperate. There's really too much egoes around for such a small market. Yes, competition is a good thing(TM), but I really don't see how this would be helpful on a market which lost it's profitability so many years ago. It's like watching kids fighting over a few bread crumbs.

You may think whatever you like about Amiga Inc. but atleast they are cooperating. Eyetech has the hardware, Hyperion has the software, Amiga Inc. has the brand, together they can and will make this work. Genesi could have been a part of this team but they chose their own path. I'm still as of today so deeply sorry that they did and that this split among them now reflects on the rest of the Amiga community. I've seen what these kind of indifferences can do before, do you remember the H&P vs Phase5 wars? Well, it tore apart the entire Amiga PPC software industry (what was left of it, that is) and I'll tell you this; *nothing* good came out of it. I still, even as of today, have to reboot my PPC Amiga when I switch between different PPC applications. Tomorrow, I'll probably have to buy two different computers as well as operating systems if I want to be able to run all Amiga software. How could anyone possibly think of this as a good thing?

I was actually glad the day Phase5 went bancrupt. I thought; finally, perhaps we won't see anymore of these intrigues in the Amiga market anymore. It pissed me off real bad the day I heard that Amiga Inc. and bPlan was never going to cooperate. I will never forgive them for this. You see, I would never have bought a PPC card for my Amiga if I would've known about the poor software support for it. What I mean by this is that both the Pegasos and MorphOS are completely useless products to me as a user if they're not compatible with the rest of the Amiga market.

If Genesi would truelly care about the Amiga community, they would have sacrificed just about anything to cooperate. Trying to revive the Amiga market through competing is like trying to cure a headache by shooting yourself in the head. I doubt Amiga Inc.'s conditions's could have been that impossible since they seem to be the only ones having these problems with cooperating with them. Heck, Amiga Inc. is obviously even prepared to give away the AmigaOS IP in case of them ending up in insolvency. It is quite clear that these former Phase5 and VisCorp guys has no intentions of cooperating. I have no idea of what they think they are going to gain by doing this, but what I do know is that it is very unlikely something we as users will ever gain anything from.

A piece of my mind, take it or leave it.
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