[News] Nolan Bushnell now member of Phoenix | ANN.lu |
Posted on 04-Jun-2003 21:54 GMT by takemehomegrandma | 41 comments View flat View list |
The Phoenix Developer Consortium is proud to welcome a new member: Nolan Bushnell. Nolan founded Atari and brought the first video games to the consumer market. Phoenix and Genesi are proud to work together with Nolan.
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Nolan Bushnell now member of Phoenix : Comment 33 of 41 | ANN.lu |
Posted by greenboy on 05-Jun-2003 21:08 GMT | In reply to Comment 32 (Oric1): > Oric1 :
>Apart from running Morphos, which is far from being finished compared to XP or OSX or even Linux, there's no point of having a Pegasos.
Hmmm. Guess you haven't though about this, or been reading any posts by people who have : } Just having alernative OSes makes it possible to do large-scale projects involving hundreds or even thousands of machines, for OEMs and service providers. Often they specify an OS they want to use, or want the solutions provider to use. QNX is a good example - often QNX developers are hired to build to specialized installations to a certain spec and provide apps. Some of those specs benefit from lower power requirements and quietness, and having another hardware platform that can meet these requirements at a good price can get them into more projects, which in turn ships more boards.
Linux is increasingly specified too, for projects which can result in large sales where the benefits of the Pegasos can be leveraged.
>If you've a Pegasos that mean that you're interested in Morphos,
I think I've just illustrated where that is not the case... you are thinking from a very limited experience, a very narrow perspective.
>if you want more OS's on it, it means that Morphos do not fill all your needs.
That is part of the reason many OSes exist. See above. The world is not all Amiga types, nor is it the desktop. Indeed, if it was, Genesi would have little reason to believe that they should have a business plan that ranged beyond a couple years.
>All OSes that are being ported to the Pegasos are already available on any cheap PC box. Everything that is possible on Morphos is possible on Linux. Why Linux, because you have the source code (could have been xBSD) and do what you want to fit your needs (ie the business you're after...). Same thing for Morphos but only for Genesi/Bplan/Morphos Team.
See above. Many types of products can be built better without x86. For the application PPC is well-suited. Again, this isn't about the desktop. For embedded, industrial, and medical, for instance, small-form PPC has lots of opportunities, regardless of OS specified or desired. Again, though, it helps to have multiple OSes at your disposal - not to mention that Open Source OSes are often chosen these days.
>So if you want to use any other OS than Morphos then buy a cheap PC, a PC is not something owned by Microsoft or even Intel, you can buy a PC based on an AMD processor if you want to. Some of you should wake up, the war is over since a long time and nostalgy is not good for business :)
See above. you are wrong. Lots of precedents to investigate should you actually learn about the worlds embedded communities serve, and will be serving.
>It will take a long time before any other OS than Windoze or OSX have a chance to make a viable market if ever. BeOS was near, but they made a big mistake because of the Internet (.com/BEIA)
Be made mistakes but it wasn't because of the internet. In the last lap it was because they abandoned serving their community and key developers their OS was suited for, thinking they could be big shots in the embedded world. They didn't seem to notice that they were putting all their eggs into one basket, that they had hurt those developers and users, and that the companies that KNEW embedded for decades were even having trouble coming to terms with the way the market seemed to be morphing and growing.
>Does Zeta, OS4 or Morphos will survive in their very little niche only the future will tell us (I don't have a Yoda beside me ;)), but right now none of them are viable... (if available :))
For Genesi it seems to be perfectly acceptable to continue developing MorphOS for the long term. And they can do it by entering other markets with many alternate OSes using the Pegasos products sales to bankroll its steady improvement and investigate ways to move it into broader markets.
>My problem is that I know people that worked for Viscorp and so I tend to do not trust bbrv, I also read bad press about them on a french paper so I'm pretty pessimistic about genesi, but hey people can change, can they ?
Maybe it is your perspective that could change. I know a fair amount of what happened with Viscorp and it wasn't because bbrv is not to be trusted. And there is a fair amount you can read about this that has been linked here on ANN and elsewhere should you really care to understand at a deeper level.
I'll tell you this: in months Genesi has fulfilled more pledges within Phoenix than Amiga Inc did in years, and they have hired and written contracts with many developers and supplied them with cheap or even free machines and supported their initiatives.
In my book, they are showing good faith, and putting their money where their mouth is, and treating others with respect. |
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