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| Posted by Seehund on 24-Sep-2003 09:26 GMT | In reply to Comment 3 (samface):
"... summary of what's been trolling on ANN.lu ... Thank you Thendic/Genesi employees for supporting this article ... make sure everyone becomes aware of your side of the story ... I would like to add is that people consider the source ... an article that sums up every FUD mungoring fact [sic!] they can find ... I'm sorry [sic!] but in my mind [sic!], Amiga.org just officially [sic!] labeled themselves as anti- Amiga Inc. & Co conspiracists ... very unproffesional to spread the plaintiff's claims and theories ... your theories that this would put AmigaOS4 and the AmigaOne in jeopardy ..."
This is nothing but AMAZING, Samface!
Did you actually read the article (as in reading all the words in succession from left to right, top to bottom, trying to understand what the letters and words mean when put together and interpreted by the cortical areas of the brain involved with language processing)? Did you read what frigging BILL McEWEN HIMSELF said in his deposition? Are you not aware of the FACTS (or "FUD" as you like to call it) which we all know about AInc having been evicted for not paying rent, sued for not paying rent, wages and taxes, etc?
Let's have a look at the article, and then let's hear from you exactly what's FUD, fictional and one-sided, shall we?
The headline: "Amiga Inc. is in danger of insolvency and the Amiga brand again faces uncertainty."
Well, OK that's not 100% correct. Amiga, Inc. *is* insolvent. In a court deposition, McEwen has recently confirmed what already was apparent.
But I doubt your complaints are about the article putting AInc in a better light. Do you think McEwen is spreading FUD by saying that AInc is insolvent? Are the Evil Genesi-bribed Bill McEwen, AInc's and Genesi's lawyers, the Washington court and Rich Woods all intent to lie about AInc by letting us know this? In court and the publicly available documents we have indeed heard "both sides of the story", yet you sit there and say that we still need to hear both sides of the story. Exactly what side is missing, and how would that make AInc solvent?
Of course the Amiga brand faces uncertainty. Or maybe you could inform everyone of us here what certainty it is that the Amiga brand faces? My personal fear is that it's likely that it'll continue like the last 3 years to face further devaluation, ridicule, and uncertain ownership, but I'm *uncertain* about all that.
The first paragraph: Nothing controversial there, the Amiga platform has switched owners over and over again, and none of them have delivered much more than failed promises.
"A brief history of Amiga Inc."
Can't see anything incorrect there, although I don't agree that the new company's plans were "clever" or "compelling", but I suspect that's not what you're objecting to.
I have a small objection to the second paragraph in this chapter; There never were any "hardware specifications" worth outsourcing to use as a basis for the design of new hardware. "Zico" was a sweeping general description of nothing more than, well, a computer of some kind. A joke.
The third paragraph is recapitulating how well everything seemed to be going the first two years. Again, is this part of the vast Genesi conspiracy to spread FUD or whatever? Are you asking for second opinion on how well things *really* were going? You vehemently object to those opinions.
We move to "Signs of trouble".
"[T]he company mysteriously disappeared from its offices in Snoqualmie ..."
Anything wrong with this text, Samface? Any FUD? You need a second opinion?
First it was denied, both by AInc and the Bouma damage control team, and rather amusingly so; They are really there, they just like to work in the dark and they're just not hungry for pizza right now... Their phone is disconnected because all calls they get are just war-dialling 3v1l h4x0rz and annoying customers, they don't need no steenkin' phones... The suit brought by the landlord for unpayed rent is... Uuh... LALALA-ICAN'THEARYOU-LALA...
Oh well, you should all remember how it went.
Then they had "moved the offices". The reason stated was to come closer to their business partners... The old address posted on amiga.com was "slightly incorrect" and was removed, and the new one would be there in the next couple of weeks. The auction was announced, but not to worry, that's just some furniture left behind in the move... Then came the auction item list.
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It looks like this will be a long post, and while I was typing this there are probably a couple of hundred posts by yourself that shows how facts, words, logic and reasoning should REALLY be redefined and interpreted. So, I'll cut this point-by-point review of the article short. Both "sides" have been heard. Perhaps you could be so kind as to take the opportunity to point out the Genesi sponsored FUD yourself, and how it's not allowed to be met by counterclaims?
The only concrete criticism I see in your post was about "your theories that this would put AmigaOS4 and the AmigaOne in jeopardy". I guess you failed to process the information delivered in this paragraph:
"One hope for a new Amiga computer [huh?] remains: Amiga Inc. signed agreements with Hyperion and Eyetech that theoretically ensure that they would be able to market and sell Amiga OS 4 and the AmigaONE no matter what happened to Amiga Inc. However, a bankruptcy by Amiga Inc. (should that drastic measure come about) has the potential to change this. In any case, the AmigaONE hardware is shipping now with Linux and a coupon for a free copy of Amiga OS 4 upon its release (Hyperion estimates that Amiga OS 4 for the AmigaONE will be released hopefully in early 2004)."
What's incorrect here? Short of a bankruptcy, AmigaOS should be "safe", according to Hyperion.
I believe a bankruptcy would void any such agreements or contracts (though the article only says this is a "potential" outcome, and you wouldn't want to only hear Hyperion's story, would you?) - then I suppose Hyperion would need to either OWN all IP; sources, the trademark, whatever that's currently owned by AInc and Gateway. Or license what they don't own from Gateway, just like AInc. In short, Hyperion would have to be "the new Amiga, Inc." But IANAL, and neither are you.
The Terons are of course completely unaffected by whatever could happen to AInc.
Where's the FUD? Or are you using the new amigaworld.net definition of FUD: things, events, actions, statements and facts reflecting negatively on the current "Amiga" trademark owners/licensors/licensees? So complain to McEwen and AInc - they did it, they said it.
"FUD mongering facts". I like that! :D |
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