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| Posted by EyeAm on 28-Oct-2003 08:48 GMT | In reply to Comment 24 (Anonymous):
>In Reply to Comment 21:
>Eyeam, Amiga Inc pissed Garry Hare off the same way they pissed you off
>last year. Garry Hare was CEO. He left, he made the choice to leave, he
>wasn't made to leave, and nothing fell through. Remember that 'round of
>funding' Amiga was waiting for? It was Garry's job to get it, but he said
>"to hell with this" and decided Amiga didn't want to do business with
I have no idea whether he left for the same reason (or 'way', as you say) as I got ticked at them. Several specific things have just really irked me over the years with the various Amiga incarnations:
1. The prices of the hardware and such being way too high for end-users. (custom stuff helped do this--but at the same time, I do understand custom stuff also helped make Amiga what it was/is).
2. Lack of marketing what they had.
3. The beating-around-the-bush dance done with whether or not Amiga OS would or would not be on x86/64 architecture (i.e., it isn't, it is, it never was going to be, it's going to be and we always told you that, no we never said that you got it wrong)
4. The absolute LIE(s) of the weekend of March 30th, 31st, and April 1st, 2001. This irritated me the most of anything, because what it was was this: After having written over 128 companies (as a fan of Amiga OS) to get them partners or see if people were interested in all these things being talked about, and how that weekend was built up to be THE moment when all the stuff would be unveiled and partners announced, it came down to only Sharp (a good company, mind you) but nothing much else. Certainly not what I was led to believe. And they can't exactly *ever* get mad at me for that, because an owner of Amiga, Inc. gave me a letter to "use any way" I wished--detailing plans. Of course, the letter got reworked and sent to all those potential partners. (emphasis on potential partners, and what that could mean for Amiga). IF they weren't ready, I should not have been given that, or told what I was. IF the info was wrong, they screwed themselves. I don't think it was, though; I think a lot of things fell through, and the community continued to fracture. I also have a high suspicion now that some sabotage (not on the part of Amiga) went on.
5. General unwillingness to truly listen and think about opportunities or potential money-making ideas. (this gets at the issue of why I could never, ever understand why PPC was chosen over x86--with the latter being the bigger market--and the route chosen being done so by a company who claimed to need money). But having said this, I also want to make it clear that it's not a 'my way or highway' kind of view that I hold. If they truly want to go a certain way, great...maybe they know something I don't, and I'll sit back and see if I'm surprised (even though I still have my opinion about the path). Of course, in light of the current realities...[fill in blank].
>anyone, so he didn't want to risk his reputation with the investors. Would
>you? Seriously?
Well, I already did that.
The thing about reputation, when it comes to things that others don't believe in, is that you follow a path regardless of what they think...if you yourself (using corporate 'you' there) believe that's the right way to go. Maybe they knew/know the way, maybe they didn't/don't. I respect them for the conviction of their beliefs. Of course, I was telling them that they were going the wrong way (mostly. I also understood about the classic PPC stuff). And, of course, everyone got their share of being attacked or dumped on by others--me, them, general supporters.
I guess it comes down to: is one going to really buy into what the others say, about being a laughing stock or idiots or fuckheads or whatever else was ever said...OR is that just going to be ignored in favor of continuing on toward success--getting back up, dusting off, and moving on to the point of death. (I often choose the latter). The former is always failure once you throw in the towel. That just reminded me of one more thing they ticked me off about before: and it was Fleecy throwing in the towel about Microsoft, saying that they couldn't win on the desktop. I say that is complete bullshit, despite 'odds'; ANYbody (MorphOS, AROS, Linux, whomever...) can make it if they really plan and do it right. So I usually shrug that off (ok, so I fight back with the opposing sentiments :) often). But the lack of conviction for an 'OS company' saying it couldn't, basically, put out a successful 'OS'...was disturbing; especially when the superficial, on the surface speeches were saying otherwise. Yes, I saw all this stuff.
I also still give them the chance. Now it *might* be that these particular humans aren't the ones to lead Amiga on, but I KNOW in my heart of hearts that it will be AMIGA that succeeds Microsoft on the world computing stage. I'm still iffy about Apple; they could rise with Amiga. The world may have two dominant ones, but I see Windows dying off.
>Who's going to invest in a company that say's "no" to every
>costomer that wants to buy their product?
You're right, you are right there. Rhetoric that speaks the truth there.
One of the things I have believed (and couldn't understand with the contrary reality) was: what is the big deal with the OS running on hardware that isn't especially given warranty for regarding the OS? I mean, if the box says this or that hardware, and someone installs it on a motherboard or something not listed--and it works on what it's installed on--why should Amiga *really* care, so long as 1) they don't have to give warranty for things other than what they specify--and disclaimers can even be popped onto the box, too, saying essentially that; and 2) they are selling the OS.
An OS box sold is an OS box sold. Money in the bank. Investors would LOVE that.
I always wondered about why a company was in business to not make money. And the questions which arose in my mind included the wondering of whether someone or some company or some license requirement or contract requirement...prevented them from doing something, and whether they could say so or not.
Benefit of the doubt, again, on my part (during the majority of the time, when I was not angry at something with them).
> Amiga has only signed ONE AmigaDE
>contract, and they have to be sued just to honor it! A company that says
>"no" to every costomer that's interested in their new product, is not a
>good investment.
Well, I understand the situation to be different than that; that the agreement gave Amiga the say-so for any other/future devices, and that it was generally understood to be these small devices, not a desktop OS. I think the court case will answer these questions, so there's really no need for me to say much about it. Everybody even within sight-range of this particular situation has his or her own ideas or opinions about it (including my 'opinion'), so for what it's worth, the flame-worthy topics just don't hold much appeal with me at this time. I've jumped in before, to such threads, but I think one of the last 300+ posts took care of settling the line in the sand, at least :)
I have been writing Amiga email again, lately. Have been emailing Dave Haynie, too. But, interestingly, the last few emails of mine weren't replied to. I think it might be due to my hobby OS, or they're just getting flooded with email, or busy, or finding Stress Tabs as they (Amiga only) talk with lawyers or, heck, who knows...getting something out the door. I can still hope.
Anyhoo, about Garry Hare. At the time that was current news, even then I didn't take too much notice of him or who he was. It seemed to be happening in the background. Almost by the time I heard Amiga *might* have a new CEO, it was over and the 'rumor' dispelled. So, as with the others that were, I shrugged and didn't bother with it.
Took until this year before I found out exactly what the big horrible thing was that was referred to as "what happened back in June". (i.e., employee left, suing for two months backpay). Granted, while such things have a bearing on stability for the company, I suppose it's not the kind of thing they put on the website, which concerns the OS and directions.
Ok, that's it. This is getting long :) For those who want an extra place to post--Amiga-friendly--I have my own message forums now called Mystic Tree (on my site). Computer-related and other topics, too. I just recently got settled into the new url after moving things.
--EyeAm
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