|[Web] NCSCAUG Interview with Omniscience||ANN.lu|
|Posted on 07-Nov-2003 19:55 GMT by Tony Gore||37 comments|
The NC/SC Amiga User Group presents an interview with developer Jim Wingard of Omniscience. The interview outlines the process of becoming an AmigaDE developer, the software development cycle, as well as his take on AmigaDE in general.
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|NCSCAUG Interview with Omniscience : Comment 21 of 37||ANN.lu|
|Posted by samface on 08-Nov-2003 13:51 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 19 (Purist):|
>>>Simple, they have their own agenda to make money and put it in first place.
>>Congratulations! You just earned yourself a degree in economics.
>>Seriously, they are a business rather than some form of charity organization, >>of course they will do what makes the most business sense! What did you >>expect, free beer?
>There was no investmente from them that was necessary.
>So I'd expect them to support the users by letting the 3rd party companies
>continue AmigaOS, at that time (when they announced AmigaOS dead).
They didn't expect anyone to be up for such seemingly non-profitable task (which would be true for just about any other business out there). However, once it turned out that they were wrong, they changed their decission pretty much right away. I'd even say they announced their change of plans a bit prematurely and should have waited until the deal with the third party was properly set first.
>>...However, when several third parties offered to do the work for them, they
>agreed to license the technology so that third parties could continue the
>classic line of products while they keep their focus on the next generation
>No. Please get your facts rigth! That allowed third party developers to
>continue AmigaOS when they saw that they couldn't modify TAOS' intent to have
>memory protection. AmigaDe over AmigaOS is supposed to have that.
>So again, it wasn't "for the users".
The original plan to write a new OS from scratch to integrate the AmigaDE technology with has NOT changed. The original AmigaOS will be gradually replaced, piece by piece, until nothing or very little is left of it. They call this replacing AG1 (Amiga Generation 1) with AG2 (Amiga Generation 2) technology.
Again, this as a business plan for a hopefully commercially viable product, not your everyday hack and patch made "for the users" that you find on Aminet.
>> You can whine about this strategy all you want but I don't think you will
>accomplish anything but look really childish.
>Childish?!! So you don't think that people that have dedicated so much time to
>the platform and see the company screwing it all up because of their own
>agenda, when they could have simply let other companies continue supporting it
>have a right to say something?
I'm sorry if it disappoints you if they try to turn the Amiga market into a profitable business again rather than some kind of exotic hobbyist niche thing.
>Don't get me wrong I'm talking about the situation as in 2000 (or close) when
>they announced AmigaOS dead.
They never announced it dead, all they said is that they won't pursue the classic product line since it doesn't make business sense for them. This remains true as of today.
>They screwed it. AmigaOS developers just got away.
The results of their strategy still remains to be seen. Don't expect a new OS to be written from scratch with as limited resources as theirs over just a day or two, expect it to take several years. In the meantime, their strategy has been to go ahead and release the AmigaDE as a hosted ontop of other operating systems solution in order for developers to be able to start developing for this new future software platform today.
>There sure was a lack of
>product responsability too, but had they let 3rd parties continue the OS the
>the time, I don't think we would be in the situation we are now.
Their are alot more to the story than you know about. The problem never was Amiga Inc.'s inability to let a third party take over the development of the classic product line, the problem was trying to get all the third parties to cooperate so that the product could be produced and delivered. Negotiations was in a stand still and nearly dropped entirely when Hyperion finally stepped in and saved the day, so to speak.
>So forgive me if I sound too hash, but the thing is, after what they've done
>(or didn't), it just seems too much hypocrisy to hear people saying something
>along the lines of "we're giving AmigaOS back to the users, allowing 3rd
>parties to continue the OS" or something.
From a business stand point, I don't think Amiga Inc. care much for the classic Amiga product line at all and I never claimed otherwise. However, just like me, they are fond of their history and appreciates the efforts from Eyetech and Hyperion like the rest of us.
>Companies can do whatever they want to with what they own, but their actions,
>specially towards customers/users are pretty much the normal relations of
>normall Joe's. If they screwed you once you shouldn't trust them till they
>prove the contrary.
In what way did they "screw" you?
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