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At today's hearing of the Tribunal of Commerce in Paris a judgment was rendered declaring Pretory, S.A. in bankruptcy and appointing a receiver. The process finally will now begin to transfer Thendic-France's assets to Genesi SARL.
Our situation with Pretory S.A. has been a long and difficult one. In all matters we have cooperated with the French Government and agreed to close the Company in a coordinated and proper manner. Time will demonstrate that we have behaved properly and legally in all respects as shareholders and managers.
In no way will these matters effect Genesi. Finally, we are personally free to devote the time and resources we want to the Genesi.
Sincerely,
Raquel and Bill
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| Posted by Damien Naviliat on 19-Nov-2003 12:56 GMT | In reply to Comment 106 (bbrv):
Hello guys
@all
BBRV recieved this reply directly from my personnal email, for spam reasons, I don't want my email to be spread around the net.
Hell Bill,
>Hi Anonymous 195.212.190.98, you are no better than the myterious sources >being quoted for those articles.
How well, having a pseudo isn't usefull too to know who am I, so here is my real name.
The sources of those articles aren't mysterious. Humanité is a newspaper that exists since so many years, liberation too. Those two newspapers are near 75years old. A you say in the end of your reply, those accusations are true and not mysterious (it's you that told this).
>1. Garry Hare did carry a business card that indicated he was the CEO and >Chairman of Amiga Inc. He gave the card to many people. We even spoke to him a >couple of times. He investigated the situation and decided he did not want to >be involved. Did you miss the acknowledgment that finally came from Fleecy?
Well again it's your declaration.
Don't try to change the reality about what Fleecy said, he never stated that this one was the CEO, just told about a guy from their investors that came to evaluate the situation. Have you a link to such a declaration Fleecy?
You can pretend what you like about business cards and so on, I know who is Gary Hare and what it does. I won't talk about this publicly just because there are lawsuits on the run.
>2. Tao has ported Intent to PowerPC. If the decision this week is favorable on >the Summary Judgment against Amiga we will go to Tao and ask them if they are >interested. Frankly, the AmigaDE part seems to exist in name only. But, we >will know for certain soon.
Well, here I go.
When you talk about something that exist or don't exist, you have to know what you are talking about Bill. As A regular DE developer I know what is or isn't AmigaDE. And this is more than you seems to think about (or probably more than you "pretend" to think, because bringing down all that is Amiga Inc is good for you, since this is business). I take, and I'm shure every DE developer too, take this as a personnal attack. We, DE developers, have worked harder and harder to bring chances for this product to have a life. Talking about DE that don't exist is so a sign of deny for all work done by the developers community.
I don't mean here that you are talking specially for DE developers, but talking about a product that don't exist simply alienate all the work done by DE developers. But in real, they (DE developers) have achieved an enormous amount of work for the DE and when you pretend this product don't exists, you pretend every person of this developper community who work hundreds and hundreds of hours are doing nothing.
Since you are bringing a product on the market you know that developing new concepts (when not copying that already exists) is long and hard to do. Don't expect to have the DE finished before it is. I remind you (it seems you're interested by TAO)that intent is just a basic Os, and I wouldn't say it's an Os, it's a minimum Os, really efficiant even on poor hardware.
For comparisons, in times, when pegasos was in development and that no one can see the product, I never heard Amiga (or not me) telling that the pegasos is a product that don't exist ok? We all know you hate Amiga Inc team (I even have real proofs about this, real proofs on how you can be when you hate someone), I don't like you due to your way to do business. I or even Amiga haven't never, never criticized the quality/existance MOS nor Pegasos ok? THIS is the start of real business, it's amazing to act this way. Another point is that it's easy to criticize works done when you sell a product that has started to be developed many years before os4/DE/amigaone.
The DE itslef is more than was pretent on this post. Having such sentences are spreading false informations, false debates, and you don't want that is it, 'cause you're a good and professional business man is it?
If you really reply honnestly don't pretend wrong things, specially when you know their wrong! Act like this, and there will never be another guy like me to pretent you tell lies Bill!
>3. Nearly, all the things mentioned in terms of Pretory SA in the articles are >true, which is why we fired the French manager. Keep in mind that we were >shareholders and had little if anything to do with this day to day business. >The really sad part about all this is that there were MANY employees that were >exceptionally good and hard working people.
I think that when you don't talk about Amiga, you can be honnest. I trust you on this point, even if the French justice is completely corrupted (and I saw in the TV journal your "formidable" machines that will detect every man who smoked a joint in airport, I asked myself if there's a reason why you don't have problems personnaly with justice, maybe because our government "needs" those machines, so it needs you, but enough, I told I trust you on this point, but it's an idea I had before your reply...
>If you can find the courage to reveal your identity and email us personally we >will be happy to continue this discussion directly. In the meanwhile, your >post in light of everything else mentioned and discussed in this thread is >simply another attempt to throw gas on a fire that is not burning -- not here >and not in France. Now into the dryer! You are all washed up!
Easy for you. You like, and you're often there, concilient and friendly, when things are defavorable to Amiga Inc. In the other way, you are accusating every persons who dislikes your point of view of trolling, throwing gaz on fire of things like that. Did you realize this?
Last thing, on the last topic about thendic-amiga, I have posted 3 links that reveal the pletory story (the mamous mysterious sources you told about).
This post has been deleted (or I don't saw him anymore) "due to policy reasons".
The next day, there is a topic about the pletory situation... You are not the admin of this site but this seems strange top me.
Best Regards.
Damien. |
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