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Posted on 11-Jan-2004 14:28 GMT by Lukas Stehlik | 356 comments View flat View list |
The best Amiga ever - Pegasos II G4 1GHz!
See the benchmark results on AmiGOD2 benchmark page.
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Posted by Oppressor on 15-Jan-2004 18:37 GMT | In reply to Comment 337 (samface): > Offer? You mean like a practical solution in order to get your
> Pegasos accepted as an Amiga? Unless you can get it licensed, there is
> no solution. Buy an AmigaOne.
Neither, and I have a PPC-powered PC running Linux already. Pegasos
and AmigaOne are completely exchangable brands for the matter at hand;
what I do care for are people like you and me, who may find themselves
in the urgent need for software some day.
> Why? I mean, when Amiga Inc. finally listens to the community's
> objections and does the right thing, is this how you reward them?
I don't have to reward them further, as I've developed for the SDK and
backed their figure of 3000 registered developers already. Since then
I'm watching this community in stagnancy waiting for a product
competing with the Pegasos and MorphOS. I didn't tell Amiga Inc. to
launch OS4, as there is no market for such a product in my opinion.
> Have you forgotten that Amiga Inc. even suggested making MorphOS the
> official continuation of the classic AmigaOS product line and that
> this would have been a reality today if it wasn't for Bill Buck's and
> Ralph Schmidt's big egoes/greed?
I didn't know that. That would be a pity, really. :(
> The ability for Pegasos users to run classic Amiga software
> in an Amiga-like environment is only something for making the
> transition from the Amiga platform to their new platform a bit more
> convinient, nothing more.
I think you're right, because Genesi is a market entity that must lay
out strategies for its survival and ongoing development. People
started buying at Genesi, regardless of them being just a
clone-producer. But, if these people have fallen behind your horizon
and OS4 is delayed just another year or two, you may find yourself in
a niche of just yourself and OS4.
> If you believe that this feature makes this new hardware and OS a
> continuation of the classic product line, you are only deluding
> yourself.
No, I personally don't need a PPC continuation of the OS3.1 API. This
would be just the least common denominator for building upon at the
moment. Given the amount of software that is being shed out daily,
this cannot be sacrificed lightheartedly.
> What makes you so confident that AmigaOS4 software market would be
> so dependent of software developed by MorphOS users? A more critical
> issue would be, how is the MorphOS software industry going to advance
> without support from the Amiga software industry? [...]
> I'd say few developers are prepared to sacrifice support for the
> official Amiga software industry in favor of the even more exotic
> niche platform called the Pegasos.
Please explain what exactly you mean by "official Amiga software
industry", especially regarding the "official" part. Do the few
remaining bedroom programmers need an Amiga sticker now? I hoped I was
through this all already, by buying the SDK, signing an NDA,
betatesting the OS4 TCP stack and all... :)
I'm pretty confident that the total number of developers is small, and
that ALL of them are mutually dependent on each other. I've yet to
find a developer that would count so clearly in either of the camps as
your reasoning demands. Without the Pegasos we'd be debating over a
zero-entity niche, so please be a bit more forgiving with them.
> The AmigaOS3.1 API is dead because it cannot be significantly
> advanced beyond it's current state without breaking compatibility.
> For more modern functions, the developers will have to choose from
> supporting either MorphOS, AmigaOS4 or both.
I don't quite understand why it couldn't be extended to any desired
level, but new software is urgently needed, sure. As long as this
Amiga/Genesi issue is unresolved, it doesn't happen.
> Sure, it's suits just as fine as any other classic Amiga emulating
> solution, but that's also the ONLY relevance with the term Amiga that
> the Pegasos has and we don't call a PC with WinUAE an Amiga, now do
> we?
That's all the relevance there is. |
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