[News] Pegasos sales restarting | ANN.lu |
Posted on 28-Jan-2004 20:14 GMT by Nate Downes | 156 comments View flat View list |
That's right, online sales are returning early! If you're looking for that PegasosII, the wait is over! PegasosPPC.com is back and ready to take your order.
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Posted by takemehomegrandma on 29-Jan-2004 18:15 GMT | In reply to Comment 67 (Don Cox): @ Don Cox
>> "Most people can do everything they want with their "last year's model" and
>> that is because "the last year's model" is actually quite good and very
>> suitable for their needs!"
> If you position the Pegasos/A1 as "good enough" mediocre computers
OK, the terms "last year's model", "good enough" and "mediocre" all has an unjust negative touch. You compare it to the *top of the line* PC's and Mac's, like that is relevant. It's not, because your reasoning is assuming that there only is one single segment - only *one single need* - on the entire computer market, and that everyone is prepared to walk across broken glass in order to get the stuff with the highest numbers on. That is not true. Again, take a look at the PC market that totally stalled some year ago. Everyone was thinking that the race would go on and on forever, people will continue to demand faster and faster CPU's and higher "numbers" forever, like USB3, Firewire1600, etc. That assumption kicked back big time upon the industry, because people didn't replace/upgrade their computer as expected!
Why? Well, why would people invest good money to upgrade to a "today's model" when they already have *everything they need* in the "yesterday's model"? Again, those terms are inappropriate. Perhaps the term "most suitable" would be better? Is the latest and most powerful Nvidia 3D gaming card the most suitable card for someone who mainly uses their computer for word processing, just because it's available? Is 24-bit audio with midi connectors really suitable for someone who mainly uses their computer for bank transactions on their Internet bank, just because it's available? Is a roaring 4GHz CPU really suitable for someone who uses his computer mainly for trading recepies on an e-mail list, just because it's available?
Perhaps your time in the x86 "space race" has caused you to believe that constant racing simply must be a normal state? Perhaps it isn't, not to everyone at least? Different needs, different segments, different products - "suitable" products.
> People
Again, who is "people" here? What segment are we talking about? Render farm owners? Programmers and 3D developers that needs every clock cycle they can find? Or Mr/Mrs Smith who's only need is to write a mail and browse the web once in a while, and greatly apreciates if the "device" they are using to do that is totally noiseless and starts up in a flash?
> will only buy a weird, non-standard computer (such as a Mac) if it has some
> outstanding features and is of really high quality.
Computers may come in lots of different shapes, and have lots of different purposes. AFAIK, neither the areas of usage, nor the price or "shapes" for the Pegasos is cut in stone.
IMO, the Pegasos offering *as of available today* could be seen as:
1) The best priced open PPC development desktop system. Many OS options. This should interest any non-Mac PPC developers.
2) A very reasonable priced component of *silent* "build it yourself" home server system, with low power consumption but still quite powerful thanks to its PPC processor and gigabit ethernet that goes directly into a very fast North Bridge (that's originally designed for high speed communication purposes) instead of going through the narrow PCI bus.
3) The guardian, a professional security solution consisting of both hardware, software and services, and very competitive priced as such.
And of course:
4) The best priced and most powerful Amiga NG solution that is still being developed (not an old OS under emulation)
Are there more that I forgot?
It could also (in it's current incarnation) become:
1) A general alternative desktop solution, both for home and for office. That would (IMO) require a lower price, which certainly could be achieved through volume and innovative business models (in the console market they sell the HW at loss and make the money on licenses instead. Only the imagination is the limit).
2) One of the highest-end (and most expensive?) STB's around.
3) An OEM component for any kind of device in any kind of shape that requires power without watts, performance without noise. Price? I would guess that is negotiable and depends on volume.
"Pegasos technology" (PPC hardware components, BIOS, OS's, applications, etc) may in the future be derived into (and all current SW developers will benefit):
1) Low cost custom built STB's. There were some interesting reading in the interview with b-plan in the amiga.org magazine issue #0.
2) The "Eclipsis" (the same interview), a 150x200 mm system, highly integrated with exciting technology (like WLAN), for use as a "display unit" (it's supposed to have a 16:9 aspect ratio screen, perfect for DVD's etc), as a web tablet, in laptop usage, or whatever. Seems to be a very suitable OEM component for lots of possible projects.
3) The Pegasos III, a high end PPC 970 (G5) computer, with a fast Marvell Northbridge that uses IBM's high speed Elastic Interface Technology. It will probably cost plenty, but be cheaper than high end Macs.
This last product is perhaps what you are looking for, Don Cox? But as I said, there are needs on certain market segments that one can make money from, other than those who allways wants desktop products with the "highest numbers" possible. Nothing is cut in stone, lots of products and areas of usage can be found, but you have to use some imagination. |
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