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REPLY in Support of Motion filed by Plaintiffs Genesi Sarl, Thendic Electronics Components re 49 MOTION to Modify the Order Granting Specific Performance, (LT, ) (Entered: 03/25/2004)


Richard Hughes, Attorney for "Thendic", accuses Bill McEwen of perjury, refering to Bill McEwen's deposition taken on August 14, 2003, nearly four months following the sale Amiga's OS system to Itec wherein he testifies that Amiga's assets included its Intellectual Property Rights to AmigaOS.

Bill Buck testifies as a person with "'a unique knowledge base regarding Amiga'", refering to the days of when he was the CEO of a company that was partnered with ESCOM to develop and promote The Amiga Operating System through a hardware platform, claiming that "'applications such as a web-browser, an MP3 player, and a mail client are application programs that adhere to an operating system just as Microsoft Outlook Express is an e-mail application that works with Windows'". Furthermore, he concludes that "'If the Amiga DE Operating System did not include an operating system and was touted as beeing only an "application" as Amiga now contends, it could not have been promised or discussed integration of Java, MP3 and mail client as stated in the ("Agreement")'".

Bill Buck claims that he was the one who suggested that the Amiga Operating system and the AmigaDE should be seperate enteties as an explanation to his "'Amiga OS is an operating system, DE is something different that makes alot of things work in other than Amiga operating system environments'" statement.

Bill Bucks states: "'I believe the mail attributed to 'Fleecy Moss' was and still is from Fleecy Moss"'.

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Amiga vs Thendic Update: Genesi fights back! : Comment 41 of 143ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 28-Mar-2004 01:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Peter Gordon):
I am amazed that anyone would have the gaul to enter such an extraordinary pile of bullshit into a court case.

Worst. Pun. Ever.

The interesting thing is that some of the claims aren't so bad as points of fact -- Zico, though that version's been subject to as much 'interpretation' as any other (when's the last time we heard 'AMIE,' anyway?), always included the Firewire present on Pegasos; certainly plenty of people independently noticed the conflict of a 'run-anywhere' platform delayed for what seemed to be political reasons* -- but in the end, what does 'inventing' the idea of a device with a CPU, peripherals and keyboard... or wishing that a company would stop being stupid... have to do with anything?

The 'stop being stupid' aspect is, of course, what the case is about, but this crafts his own best argument for AI to transfer no IP, and owe monetary damages if anything, which would probably benefit Genesi, Thendic, or whoever more at this point, anyway... Except, whoops, (and if so, this even screws the Hon. Lasnik, who needs to find a way to resolve this to the satisfaction of the law) those are capped at the value of the contract, right? On the third hand, it's not like a sources'n'all fork of DE would even hurt AI right now,** especially stripped of any non-transferable components, and it's that particular future Genethendicwhoever's entitled to some fraction of the proceeds of (if the contract had been fulfilled way back when).

...AI are integrating "technology" into AmigaOS that, by his own admission, doesn't run on AmigaOS?


*So it turns out it was political, but not entirely for the politics we expected; AI gets no funding for DE until 4's gone, AI surprises everyone by following through on 4 without collapsing into rubble; 4 gets spun off (under impressive secrecy or retroactively, the jury's still out)... and this is all revealed only after Genesi admits it was after 4, not DE. So the DEalership finally got the Maserati in, but someone wants a Fiat for his trouble. (Or vice-versa, if the entendre's less amusing than the tendency of the latter to burst into flames.)

**It'd just redistribute the playing field, again, not much of a problem for a company that's never quite left the huddle. Though I am going to be disappointed if this carries on the tendency for everyone to declare the general market scary and go hide behind a 'services' model alone. (Not that there's anything wrong with services, I'm sure they're a hell of a lot more lucrative than direct sales, but if, as individual_dork here, I can't afford your services -- or have to go through hassle to find out if I can; sorry QSSL, I'm picking on you again -- I'm making you $0 even if I'm one of your tech's biggest fans.)


While composing an elided part of this comment, I hit upon the mental image of someone trying to reenact John Kerry's supposed heroism in a plane; "Business is war." -Jack Tramiel. It's tangential to my take before considering implications (they weren't intended, this sort of thing just happens to me), but it's amusing enough that I've got offer the thought ``as is.''

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