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Posted on 10-Jun-2004 18:15 GMT by The Paihia Team63 comments
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The Paihia Team would like to announce the development of their new web browser, named Paihia. We hope to have an initial release by the end of 2004. Amiga-like systems and their users are crying out for a standards compliant browser. Despite all the modern web standards being very old (CSS2 is 7 years old, HTML4 is 5 years old) Amiga-like systems still lack in this area.

The leading objective of the Paihia authors (there are now 3 of us) are the implementation of real web standards - we aren't interestd in partial implementations, or bits here, and bits there. All 3 of us have extensive experience with modern web standards and we are particularly keen on being able to use our Amiga-like systems with the web, both to their full potential. HTML 4, Java/ECMAScript 1.5, CSS2.1, and DOM level 3 will feature in our initial release, with us then looking at more recent XML-based web standards which are still not widely used on the web for subsequent development.

Although work has been ongoing for 5 months now (and only recently with 3 developers), we still have a significant amount to complete. Having said that, we've been monitoring the progress of AmiZilla, and looking at their recent progress update on ANN, we are satisfied that Paihia is at a somewhat more advanced stage.

Paihia will be shareware. The application has been written from scratch and does not utilise any existing web content engines. Although this seems duplication of work, our progress tells us it isn't.

We should mention that we all lean slightly towards MorphOS and AROS, however, economics tell us there will more than likely be a version for AmigaOS3, and OS4.

In the next few months we'll be making public a website, with screenshots, of the new browser.

Keep watching!

The Paihia Team

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New web browser for Amiga-like systems in development : Comment 30 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by Sammy Nordström on 11-Jun-2004 06:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Don Cox):
>"a) You will not be able to run them on the same hardware."
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>You may be able to in the future. Who can tell?

We know enough to not make any hardware purchase and expect support for both operating systems. At this point, we simply *have to* assume that we will never be able to dual boot these two operating systems and choose hardware based on which OS we prefer and which OS we can be without.

>"b) The development, marketing and forensic efforts behind these operating
>systems are in direct opposition to each other which is rather counter
>productive for the small and far from profitable Amiga market."
>
>I doubt if "forensic" was the word you wanted.

Maybe "legal actions" is a better term, please excuse my english. However, I doubt our different views on things would be due to the language barrier.

>Both teams are about the same size, several people are working on parts for
>both OSes, both companies are small, all the people involved are Amiga
>enthusiasts. Both teams hope to sell to far more than the current Amiga
>market.

So, beeing equal makes them less of competitors and more like partners working alongside with each other? I'm sorry but all of the above is completely irrelevant to the issue at hand, the fact that they are opposing each others efforts with basicly every means available remains. They are opposing each others development efforts by making exclusive deals with third parties and by inventing their own software and hardware standards. They are opposing each others marketing efforts with public mud slinging and "parasitic marketing". Most devastating for all, they are even opposing each others existence with legal means. Tell me, how could any of this possibly look like they are working "alongside" each other? I mean, working "alongside" someone means to me that they are either cooperating or atleast staying out of each others way.

>"Whichever of these operating systems that you may prefer, none of them are
>running "alongside" of the other, IMO."
>
>They look pretty well neck-and-neck to me.

It seems more like they are going head-to-head to me.
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