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Posted on 14-Jun-2004 23:52 GMT by JohnV68 comments
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Here's what Benjamin Herrenschmidt, a respectable linuxPPC kernel hacker thinks about the Articia. <A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2004/06/msg00430.html">Here is some interesting thread about the Articia. Note that Benjamin Herrenschmidt is a clued linuxPPC kernel hacker with lot of experience. Here's what he thinks about the Articia "features":

It's basically incompetent northbridge design.

No, that means the HW is a Piece Of Shit !

Cache coherency is a basic feature of anything claiming to be used as a desktop machine.

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What a PPC linux kernel hacker thinks about the Articia : Comment 40 of 68ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 15-Jun-2004 13:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Don Cox):
The OS doesn't run on their chip, the OS runs on a complete computer and the computers use the chip. But anyway MAI needs to produce a series of chips until they have something competitive and then software like Linux will be adjusted if necessary to run with the newly available competitive hardware. Until then MAI's funding is not correlated to sales.

Running Linux on the Teron just validates the Teron hardware, or rather doesn't, since the results when people finally did this showed clear signs of hardware problems, most blatently the AC97 codec is somehow not stitched in correctly but also in AGP and other subsystems. They also found DMA problems (though how those were distinguished from the cache coherency "feature" discovered afterwards isn't clear) and those are supposedly fixed in the boards sold as "Earlybird" AmigaOnes.

None of the above is a problem for MAI's continued development of new Northbridges, except that it might point to a need for more QA. It _is_ a problem for anyone selling consumer hardware based on the existing Articia S and Teron designs. There aren't any Linux people in that business, it's just Eyetech, and their software partners Hyperion say they're on top of it.

Don, if you want the A1 to be some sort of mass market success I'm afraid you're in Fantasy Land. The most Amigans can hope for is that Eyetech and Hyperion are able to sustain enough income from other projects to stay in business and support your hobby.
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