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Posted on 16-Jul-2004 11:56 GMT by Michal (Edited on 2004-07-17 14:23:44 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä)76 comments
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Amiga is now so divided that groups is threaten its reputation. More and more people which I try to sell MorphOS or AmigaOS4 to, says that the war/etc discussions between this groups kills the platform. Amiga needs a good reputation and it wont have that before we all agree on that going on with both under one name. Which is AMIGA as PC is in the other side of computing. Amiga is a strong word. People remember it,.. but with Amiga showing off that we have AmigaOne, Pegasos etc++ That the community is running PPC motherboard components. That this community is about beein our self. To show that we are different. This is good! And we need to turn the negative words against each other over to positive words. We as the Amiga community controlled lots of it, when everything seemed lost. And now were splitted for nothing? Who's to blame? No one! Its about time, its about the time we all have waited. That users, etc companies have found out how good AmigaOS code is. That it is revolutionary in many ways, but it dosen't help when this community trhows snowballs on each sides when actually both sides is fighting for the same thing. To be the next generation Amiga.

But as Classic Amiga was and is the real Amiga. This new PPC motherboards is not Amiga at all. But they are choices. They have become new choices for everyone. And now we need to rebuild it all. We need to focus on getting Amiga reputation back. And that Amiga as from now on stands for what we all was and are. A userbase that is different and that we really care about each others.

Let us be the Spirit Of Amiga. Let us give Amiga a new life, a community that cares and that wants support from other big companies etc. Medias have allways been overwhelming positive over us. We cannot destroy it now. We need to focus on beeing an alternative platform to Linux, BeOS, Windows, MacOS etc.

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Now lets start to be what Amiga is allways been. The personal computer for home and entertainment areas!

Regards, Michal, www.amigaworld.org

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We should all stand tougether! : Comment 55 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by Janne on 17-Jul-2004 05:39 GMT
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>How could any of this possibly NOT affect the users? Furthermore, you cannot simply disregard that
>we're users of different computer systems. I mean, we're not even a part of the same user base

I'm not saying it won't affect the users. I'm just saying that the competition does not necessarily need to reflect on the user base the same way it reflects on the competing companies. I also said that we, as in you and me and many of the folk here today, are probably lost causes. We'll continue our petty squabbles until our noise is drowned by something else...

>Because our operating systems nor most of our applications are open source and the ones developing
>them are doing everything possible in order for the other to NOT benefit from their achievements.
>Besides, the jungle of forks and different standards in the *NIX world is NOT something I wish

Well, UNIX isn't open source either. Yet its open-source forks are what truly have made it a huge success. We have one of those too, AROS - already directly benefiting AmigaOS 3.9 and MorphOS with its codebase. But that's beside the point, really, in my opinion. None of us really wished for the forks we got, but that's history and it happened. Now we can try to make the best of it. Your opinion is that we should do it by separating, my opinion is that we should do it by working together.

We can see some of the benefits already: applications ported between all the platforms, user-groups organizing shows that cover all things with an "Amiga" heritage. Together we are bigger than apart. If, and this is certainly a big if, new markets emerge, new users will join the "community", I'd wager we can get rid of the biggest problem too: us. We old goats have seen too much to really be objective anymore and we fight, but what reason would a new user have to do so. Maybe if there are enough new users, nobody really cares about the past anymore and just concentrates on more productive issues, such as how to get the most applications to our platform, etc.

Who knows about the future, but for the moment AROS, AmigaOS and MorphOS are very, very close API compatibility wise, so inveting a technologial gap that just isn't there seems a bit ideologically motivated. The best proof, in my opinion, are all the applications that keep appearing on ANN with versions for most of the current platforms... That is working together at its best.

No need to talk about ideology, I call these things "Amiga" because I lack a better name for it. Just like many people call Linux and NetBSD "UNIX" because they feel, and IMHO reasonably so, they fall under the same umbrealla. We could call "these things Amiga" anything, we could call it Donald for all I care. It ceased to be about ideology for me a long, long time ago. But the Donald operating systems have much in common and the users and developers can and should, IMHO, benefit from that.
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