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[Rant] Where is MorphOS for CSPPC?ANN.lu
Posted on 26-Jul-2004 11:33 GMT by Kolbjørn Barmen (Edited on 2004-07-26 13:40:05 GMT by Christian Kemp)78 comments
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Whatever happened to the promised support for PowerUp? While people are discussing the meaning of "promise" and "support" I want to ask what the final outcome of MorphOS for PowerUP machines is. web archive (20030602171643) of www.morphos.net/support.php3. Was it ever promised? Not? Versions? Support? When? The mention of CSPPC and BlizzPPC was there for more than 3 years before it vanished when morphos.de/morphos.net became ..uhm.. genesized. :)
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Where is MorphOS for CSPPC? : Comment 50 of 78ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 27-Jul-2004 09:42 GMT
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@ cheesegrate

> at the very least, don't u think a time limited demo on csppc would make
> people think about buying a peg?

How many? 10? 20? Even if a 100 people would buy a Peg as a direct result of a MorphOS Amiga port it wouldn't justify the amount of work IMHO. I know that the first production runs of the Pegasos 2 has been in the hundreds but that is hopefully temporarily while the platform is taking off (it will take at least a couple of tens of thousands to make the platform sustainable), and those sales has not been conditioned to the MorhpOS team putting their work on next MorphOS release aside in order to make a Amiga port. All work that is being put into this project, is made with the hopes of some kind of great future reward, and a hundred Pegasos boards will not be it!

@ priest

> But it should because it is the only product being sold with MOS

Hopefully it will! But that certainly won't happen in the current state of the OS, but who knows, perhaps after the upcoming "major OS release"? So let's not delay that more than necessary ...

> As a matter of fact, IMO (well known), the price of pegasos make is way too
> low to cover any R&D costs at all.

That depends of what sales figures you are taking into the calculation. If you are calculating on a few hundreds Pegasos sold, then that might be true, but not if you are talking about tens and tens of thousands or more. The current price of the Pegasos is said to cover the production costs and generate a small profit for every board sold. The R&D was financed by other ways long before even the first production run (just as in all new startups), with the hopes of a future reward once the platform takes off, which will never happen if you would try using a pricing scheme that tries to pay off the entire R&D costs by the first few thousands of boards. I would even say that the opposite goes - if they want to see a REAL take off of the platform, and an even an increased chance of getting their invested money returned and a overall profit on top of that, then the price has to go down even more, possibly by 50-100 euros per board. But that will only happen if the quantities rise, so this is a bit like a catch 22. Big customers like Freescale and similar could definitely help!

> BUT THEY HAVE DONE IT ALL READY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No they have not. If the OS would have been ready and running on CSPPC's in a end-user version identical to the current "MorphOS 1.4.2" then they would of course have released it. Probably for free. But it's not. Sure, various developers are using various configurations of MorphOS on CSPPC but those are internal versions - heck, it may even be wrong to call them "versions" as I have a feeling that internally among the MorphOS developers the OS is more like unique lumps of clay, all moulded differently on different developers machines and not equal to the "version numbers" we know of. Putting together a general 1.4.2 version that runs rock stable on all thinkable hardware configurations could not exactly be done over night.

> So why not give or sell it out without any further guarrantees.

Because there is no such thing! If anything does not match a fastidious Amiga user's personal expectations, they will rave and shout loud on all forum they come across. You should know that, we have seen it on a regular basis the last years.

> Money would help the R&D of MOS !!!!!!

Yes, real money, but the kind of money this could possibly generate would probably only pay for Ralf Scmidts coffee for a week or so. The efforts would not be worth it IMHO.

Roll out MorphOS 2.0 (or whatever) for Pegasos ASAP instead! :-) That could really make the platform take off!
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