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Posted by gary_c on 09-Aug-2004 02:25 GMT | In reply to Comment 52 (AF): Look better:
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Oh, OK, thanks for pointing that out.
Gary you are a well known Genesi advocate and strong Amiga Inc critic, but I think you should ackowledge that some people may indeed find Genesi's behaviour more worrying.
Yeah, I suppose that accounts for the arguments, doesn't it? ;-)
Like for instance that they hired tons of new people including ANN's very own Christian Kemp, while they weren't even able to pay the existing employees for quite some time. That a company runs out of cash and is unable to pay for what is obligated to pay for is one (sadly not too uncommon) thing for a startup, but to hire new people, commit to more advertisings, etc without paying in some eyes is something completely different.
As I recall, it wasn't a money problem in Christian's case that soured the job deal, but that, according to him, he was being asked to assume unreasonable personal liability and also Genesi didn't file necessary papers. As for other cases, people were being hired at a time when there was no reason not to expect the Pretory money, for example, to not continue to flow for Genesi projects. In hindsight, yes, we can say it was irresponsible for Genesi to be making offers it couldn't afford; at the time, I don't think the situation was so clear.
Personally I find Genesi's past approach to the Amiga community unacceptable, like hinting that Amiga Inc would go under,
Well, for all intents and purposes Amiga, Inc. did fail and has only been revitalized (it has, hasn't it? -- I haven't heard a peep from them other than Ray Akey) by the KMOS takeover. Tell me, with its debts and dormancy, what prospects did Amiga, Inc. have? What have they done other than lie immobile for months, waiting for "the next funding round"? I don't recall exactly what Bill Buck said, but has Amiga, Inc. was as good as dead for the last year or two.
Genesi will own AmigaOS4 or brand,
Heh. That should be a lesson in not trying speaking before the judge rules. Genesi will have to be content with the AmigaDE port, it looks like. And maybe you don't want to, but the Amiga investors apparently took Bill Buck's words seriously enough to shift the assets out of what they perceived as harm's way, as Garry Hare described.
spreading weird Atari rumours,
I don't know what rumors you heard; I only heard "what would you think if..." kinds of questions. People can come to the conclusions they like; whose responsibility is that?
falsely announce Garry Hare as Amiga Inc's CEO,
Wow, I hope we don't have to go through that again. The guy does admit passing out "Garry Hare, Amiga, Inc. CEO" cards at industry events. Now, given that, you can, with a straight face, condemn *Genesi* for messing with the truth? Hmmm.
spreading AmigaOne/OS4 FUD and misinformation (G3 Peg1 faster than G4 AOne, AmigaOS4 will not see the day of light) and yes I could continue for a while if you really want me to!
You should know that bbrv has tended to phrase things to get the maximum spin, stated hoped-for or expected outcome as a done deal, etc. I don't personally advocate all those methods, myself, but then I'm not trying to get a startup off the ground with lots of my own money either, in a market where seemingly half the prospective customers have greeted with unbridled hatred what once was to be the successor to their old systems.
So Gary, don't you agree it is time to look towards the future instead of bickering about the past so much? There's alot to bicker about with regard to your holy Genesi as well!
Absolutely, let's get on with things. The retraction by Mitch Parker was a good step in that direction by helping to clear the air about a situation that was a real black mark against the integrity of Genesi and its staff.
I don't believe for a minute that Genesi is "holy" but I do tend to speak up if someone makes a statement that I think is uncalled for. I think the Pegasos is a good product and I appreciate the job Genesi has done promoting and marketing it. I don't think all is perfect by any means, but, on the other hand, many people have tried to wring the maximum damage out of every little Genesi flaw in order to support their own beloved choice. This isn't right, either. For every one of my posts, there's a band of anonymous cowards like "gary_d" ready to argue for the sake of arguing, it seems, usually resorting to insults when they don't have anything better to offer. Yes, it is very tiresome. I try not to "attack" Amiga, Inc. just to be nasty. I hope my references to their record and so on are brought up for a reason. I'd be happy as a clam if we could put the past behind us and just get things going for the future.
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