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Posted on 28-Aug-2004 19:07 GMT by drHirudo126 comments
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After some delay, the first Next generation Amiga at affordable
price will be available at the dealers in start of October. More info is Here The suggested end user price for these boards is as follows:

µ-A1-C - gbp349/euro499/USD599 (ex VAT/sales tax)
µ-A1-I - gbp399/euro599/USD699 (ex VAT/sales tax)
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MicroAmiga available in October. : Comment 109 of 126ANN.lu
Posted by Olegil on 01-Sep-2004 08:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 106 (Fei):
Who has told you you're not needed? Of course you're needed. But you sound more like you're looking for a reason NOT to buy than a reason TO buy. And looking for sane AmigaOne-fans on ANN is just futile. We're all a bunch of loonies here. Head over to AmigaWorld.net instead. But DO NOT go spouting off about how much better something else is than an AmigaOne, because that WOULD be seen as a trolling attempt (we've seen so many "innocent questions" from people who supposedly don't know anything about A1/Peg turn out to be posted by people with an agenda to throw dirt at us. No, we don't like that. Yes, it gets to us in the long run).

If you feel you know most of what there is to know about the available products and still can't make yourself buy one, then what would it take for us to convince you? Would it be worth spending a year debating with you just for one sale? How many people who do not know ANYTHING about the available products could I reach out to and convince if I did _NOT_ spend a year debating with you?

All these questions are part of the dirty game that is business. I would say, based on the little you wrote, that you are not worth the hassle of me trying to convince you. Because you seem like you aren't really interested. Same with Don Cox. I would NEVER try to sell him an AmigaOne, because I know he's not interested. He doesn't see it as an Amiga at all, because he has a very different opinion on what makes something an Amiga than I do. He defines "Amiga" as something like "thingie that can be genlocked, runs all my old applications and has a mouse port I can put my home-brew electronics on". The AmigaOne doesn't have an OCS/ECS/AGA chipset, so fails point 1 miserably, misses out on the "all" clause of point 2, and uses a PS/2 mouse instead of a bus mouse, so fails completely on point 3. Now, should we all turn the world upside down, putting in tens of man-years of hardware design just to please ONE guy? Where would anyone get the cash? Right. So unfortunately I cannot convince Don to buy an AmigaOne. What do I do? Move on. At some point there might be a solution, at which point I would go back to Don and say "Hey, Don. Look here. It can be done. Now come join us". Or Don might change his mind and see that he doesn't need those features on the AmigaOne, because he has them on his A4000 already. But until then it's not gonna happen. It's also a lot easier to convince someone that a new hobby should be tried out if it is a: something the person doesn't know a lot about already, and b: doesn't require shelling out hundreds of euros to start up. So the RPG analogy is, unfortunately, way off. Doesn't compare at all. If you have some friends with an AmigaOne who live close enough to visit, then it's starting to become relevant, though.

I'm just saying that we shouldn't be using the "but my hobby is cheaper than yours" argument, because NEITHER of these hobbies are the cheapest we could have. The point of a hobby isn't most bang for buck, it's about what you want to do and how much of that you can afford.

Unfortunately the price of the AmigaOne is steep, but that cannot be helped short of selling at a loss (it's important to get direct cost of product + some extra that goes towards covering indirect costs, otherwise Alan would very quickly go bankrupt and that would NOT help make the AmigaOne cheaper in the long run ;-) ). So it boils down to this:

Do you want to buy one?
If yes {
Can you afford one?
If yes, buy one.
If no, bide your time. It might become cheaper, or you might become richer.
} else {
Bugger off
}

Anything else is unproductive at the moment.
Whoa, lunch.
Jump...
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