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SMART NETWORKS DEVELOPER FORUM, FRANKFURT, GERMANY - SEPT. 30, 2004 - Genesi Open Desktop Workstations based on the Pegasos II were used during a hands-on Linux workshop the last day of Freescale's Smart Networks Developer Forum Europe (SNDF Europe).

The PowerPC® architecture, with the AltiVec SIMD engine, is an excellent alternate architecture for Linux applications, and the Genesi Pegasos II system comes equipped with the MPC7447 PowerPC processor from Freescale and the Marvell Discovery II northbridge.

As a member of our Smart Networks Alliance Program, Genesi is a key enabler of Linux development on the PowerPC architecture. We want to encourage developers to leverage the PowerPC architecture for their Linux applications, as this architecture can provide both performance and cost benefits for system designs, said Glenn Beck, Director of Marketing, Computer Platform Division, Networking and Computing Systems Group, Freescale Semiconductor, Inc.

We are pleased to see the success of the Pegasos platform, added Viren Shah, Product Line Manager for Marvell's System Controllers. The Pegasos platform, based on Marvell's advanced Discovery architecture, provides significant time to market advantages to our customers.

The machines were provided with a choice of operating systems including Gentoo, Crux, Yellow Dog and Debian GNU/Linux. Also included was MorphOS, a lightweight fully featured non-UNIX based Amiga-compatible operating system. All developers who participated in the Linux workshop were given an Open Desktop Workstation.

SNDF Europe was held September 27th-30th at the Sheraton Frankfurt Hotel & Towers, Frankfurt Airport, Germany.

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Pegasos II used during Linux workshop at Freescale's Smart Networks Developer Forum : Comment 41 of 41ANN.lu
Posted by Neko on 06-Oct-2004 18:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (pixie):
Any port of OS4 would have to use the OpenFirmware. Flashing the ROM without the official tool would void your warranty. There is no choice.

There's no reason for AmigaOS 4 to require U-Boot; on the contrary it should be a much easier solution to use the OpenFirmware since it has the requisite API to perform many low-level hardware functions. It also sets up the Via chipset properly *snigger* :)

Notez bien; as in comment 38, nobody said Genesi was prepared to make any financial outlay to prepare a port; unless of course it was done in-house. Genesi have not paid for the port of any other OS (bar OpenBSD for a commercial project).

Why should Genesi take all the risk and lay out money, only to be burdened to pay license fees at the end of it? That's what we call a money pit. Throw money down it and never see any back. It's not good business, is it?

The best way for everyone is for the port to be done with good technical assistance from Genesi. Then the OEM copies of OS4.0 would be sold, optionally, bundled with Pegasos machines.

Therefore the outcome of it all would be a new product; the Amiga-Compatible-branded Pegasos which comes with OS4 in a box. Or perhaps a version of the Open Desktop Workstation which comes with an OS4 in a box.

The cost of the bundle would include licensing and some agreed royalties. That way it is fair for everyone.

The Pegasos + OS4 combination COULD be sold at any place where Genesi products are sold; that includes of course things like Freescale's website and anywhere else you usually go to buy a Pegasos (Genesi store, Vesalia etc.)

As for Ralph, he has no real say in who gets to have their OS on the Pegasos. He is the MorphOS lead. He doesn't dictate which Linux and which BSD or whether QNX are allowed to port. It's not his department. It's not even mine! But some day this petty bickering has to end and we have to work together - every day the AmigaOne has a problem, is a day lost to sell OS4 bundled with hardware.

At the end of the day the PowerPC is moving to a more efficient system-on-chip architecture with integrated system buses, dual core processing, PCI-express, gigabit ethernet and suchlike built in to the processor. No need for a northbridge. Only minimal need for a true southbridge (only a consideration for cost reduction and part-count reduction compared to discrete peripheral controllers e.g. USB, Firewire, SATA)

At that point who needs Mai? Why build an ITX board and SQUEEZE all those components when you can do a credit card sized system and put an Amiga badge on it? We are not talking about a handheld device which runs Windows CE with some contrived application layer on it; we are talking native, full performance PowerPC devices that run your favourite OS (whatever the hell it might be..). Imagine a PDA or a book-device which was as free in terms of the OS that ran on it as the Pegasos.

Neko
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