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[News] Fleecy on AmigaOS interfaceANN.lu
Posted on 09-Feb-2000 08:23 GMT by Christian Kemp11 comments
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Jerry Ring wrote in c.s.a.m.: I've e-mailed fleecy recently and discussed the Amiga Interface. [..] fleecy said he didn't mind me sharing this....so These are his quotes about what the new AmigaOS can do for us
However, you will be pleased to know that the new Amiga will feature an abstraction layer that allows for anyone to place any interface they like over the process elements of the new Amiga, allowing for infinite implementation and customisation. So you build it yourself.
Fleecy on AmigaOS interface : Comment 1 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by MashMan (Matthew O'Neill) on 08-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT
But most importantly, will they be using amy the Squirrel as the official mascot!? In a recent poll on the AFB list, she (it?) came out miles above everything else, people like her, bring that up in your next email to him...
Fleecy on AmigaOS interface : Comment 2 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by Hagge on 08-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT
I would love to have different window-managers and so one... nice that we maybe will get that.
Amy is cute =)
Fleecy on AmigaOS interface : Comment 3 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by Seehund on 08-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (MashMan (Matthew O'Neill)):
Amy the Squirrel?
I'll always wonder what's wrong with those people who are obsessed with "furry art" or whatever it's called.
Oh well, I suppose there's something wrong with me, having built-in aversions against an animal face on a sexy babe's body and thinking it's all a bit kinky... ;)
Still I think there are more people who feel like I do and that having Amy as an official Amiga mascot wouldn't be an all that wise move. At least not if it would be used in commercials aimed at non-Amigans.
Fleecy on AmigaOS interface : Comment 4 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by Tony Gore on 08-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Seehund):
Likewise, I find the "Boing Ball" an unprofessional logo, but what do I know. I always liked the multi-colored "Check-mark" better. If they are going to stick with the "Boing Ball", it needs to be seriously updated...not looking like something produced by a first generation PC 3D card. Personally, I think SGI has the coolest logo on the computing market.
Fleecy on AmigaOS interface : Comment 5 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by Christian on 08-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Tony Gore):
I had the same problem with the amigia logo, dated is only the start of it. I mailed Bill and offered advice as a designer but he said they had it al sorted image wise. I was not completely impressed by the design of the MCC box. It was a rather State side style, for e.g. the i-mac apples where designed by an english designer and look how that changed things. Even epson build printer like that.
I new image should definitely be on the cards!
Fleecy on AmigaOS interface : Comment 6 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 08-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Christian):
Yes, it would be satisfying to help out but without knowing the
brief, there's not much we can do.
Logowise, we don't even know whether it is an "Amiga computer" or
whether we are looking at a VHS/ NICAM /Dolby style "amiga
compatable" logo.
The MMC box was certainly a let down, especially compared to the
concept drawings which were released. Also having such a small screen
was mean. 17in seems standard on PC's now.
One area where new amigas can score is having good keyboards.
Fleecy on AmigaOS interface : Comment 7 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by Plain English on 09-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT
Putting aside the logo (I like the boing ball) having this new Amiga with a fully cutomizable Workbench is a good idea. What area will this new Amiga participate in? Graphical internet / intranet terminal, internet appliances, workstation, it sounds like it's moving over to the Linux department. Linux has had customizable GUI's since it's first encarnation, so are we seeing an Amiga based on Linux with a good OE? I hope so, we can all only benefit.
Fleecy on AmigaOS interface : Comment 8 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by Bit7 on 09-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT
Well windows is customisable too. The first release of windows included a front end that was the basicly the same as win3.1. Any real windows user should know this (except those who pretend, who make up 90%).
But who cases about windows3.1 I can here people ask. Well if nobody makes an alternative to explorer.exe besides the win3.1 version, what good is customisable.
As for linux X windows, I have not seen a version of that interface that is really different. It seems that the funametals in a customisable os layer can not be changed.
So the default ways of the OS front end have too be good to start with it it is ever to be nice too use.
An example.
If autotofront is the default than it will be no other way, because some silly person will make an app always on top.
I use this as my point because I have never found a way around it on Linux, Windows, Mac.
So I hope they get it right from the start.
Fleecy on AmigaOS interface : Comment 9 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 09-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Bit7):
I think that the concept is, if you use the machine as a games machine
you get a games screen, as an office, an office screen and you can
choose between them.

The idea can be taken further, that you can have everything run with
clowns and bunnywabbits with big icons and simplified functions in
all the programs for small children, or have everything in big text
for people with poor eyesight or using the TV as a monitor.
Made easy to program, it allows for machine/display control with
specialised keyboards (eg: just up, down, left, right, grab buttons)
and cheap computing for people with restricted movement.
Technology with a social conscience.
Fleecy on AmigaOS interface : Comment 10 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 09-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Bit7):
I think that the concept is, if you use the machine as a games machine
you get a games screen, as an office, an office screen and you can
choose between them.

The idea can be taken further, that you can have everything run with
clowns and bunnywabbits with big icons and simplified functions in
all the programs for small children, or have everything in big text
for people with poor eyesight or using the TV as a monitor.
Made easy to program, it allows for machine/display control with
specialised keyboards (eg: just up, down, left, right, grab buttons)
and cheap computing for people with restricted movement.
Technology with a social conscience.
Fleecy on AmigaOS interface : Comment 11 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 10-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (John Block):
Honestly, the MCC design wasn't that bad. The concept designs were a bit too iMac-redundant, and the actual mockup looked good- slick black, a bit of Gibsonian chrome, and it looked like you could pull the monitor off and stick the computer unit onto a larger TV or high-resolution display... If you want to create a "multimedia convergence appliance," you're really redoing the CDTV, and that's the design motif to follow. People are ready for the CDTV today, so it's a GOOD THING. (Look at the PSX II's design, for instance... where did we see that before?)
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