| [News] First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available | ANN.lu |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 1 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Rick Pezzimenti on 14-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | | Great interview. Very interesting stuff indeed. But i find it dissapointing that to join in this chat with fleecy, we must be paid up members of Harv's club. I think that is *very* ordinary, as i am sure that the club does not endure any cost from setting up the irc channel, and i am sure that fleecy is not charging them for his time.....where is the justification? Or is it just a money grab....Very dissapointing |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 2 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by XDelusion on 14-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | Well you don't want the channel flooded with everyone, then nothing would get discussed.
As for this news, it is exactly what I expected after I read up on Elate, a very perfect Idea, and yes, I think it would not hurt to research, and popularize a new streaming standard for the internet.
Oh, and now we can CALL Amiga, which is better than IRC chats, or can be anyhow, even though they are best off keeping there mouths kind of shut.
Woo Hoo, owners of any sort of hardware can get elated now, phuck, buy a compaq server, and run Amiga OS on it! :) Hell why not. |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 3 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by szutoman on 14-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 1 (Rick Pezzimenti):
This is how Harv makes a living, however, I feel that interviews should be free to all amiga users. It seems to be somewhat shamefull to have to pay to be apart of an interview. I think that this in the future should be avoided, it really does not benefit the amiga community and only Harv. |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 4 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Eoghann Irving on 14-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 3 (szutoman):
Jesus how selfish can you get? Why should interviews be free? You have to buy
magazines to read them in there. And Harv took the trouble of releasing an
edited transcript for us. |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 5 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Adam Szymczak on 14-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 4 (Eoghann Irving):
Agreed. Harv runs a business - not a charity. This appears to be a fact lost on a number of Amiga users. A live web interview is one of many benefits of being a member of AmigaZone. Anyways Harv, did release the transcript of the interview to the public. |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 6 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Harv Laser on 14-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 1 (Rick Pezzimenti):
Rick Pezzimenti said:
"But i find it dissapointing that to join in this chat with fleecy, we must be paid up members of Harv's club. I think that is *very* ordinary, as i am sure that the club does not endure any cost from setting up the irc channel, and i am sure that fleecy is not charging them for his time.....where is the justification? Or is it just a money grab....Very dissapointing"
Well, Rick (and anyone else listening), AmigaZone's not an IRC channel. It's an online service.
As was explained quite clearly in the intro I wrote for the transcript, these Fleecy chats are taking place
in AmigaZone's own live chat area. Not on IRC.
There are tangible investments in hardware, staff, maintenance, net connections, and so on.
It's been in business since 1985. The problem is, Rick, that when people expect to get everything for free,
eventually they'll get what they pay for. "Money grab" indeed.
Harv |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 7 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Harv Laser on 14-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 4 (Eoghann Irving):
Eoghan Irving seems to understand the concept of a value-added service.
No, Fleecy wasn't paid to be interviewed. That's not how interviews work.
I've been interviewed plenty of times by various media outlets (Wired,
WSJ, Time, etc.) about the current Amiga "situation" and didn't expect them
to pay me for my opinions. When money buys opinions, it can also mold those
opinions.
AmigaZone will keep having monthly chats with Fleecy, and I'll keep editing
the captures and releasing them free to the public, a week or two after they
take place. If people want to join AmigaZone, then they can be there, live,
in person and ask Fleecy their own questions and get immediate replies from
him. That's one of the values of a membership.
It is/was a long-standing tradition of Amiga online services to hold special
guest Q and A sessions like this one. I've been doing it for fifteen years.
The Amiga areas on Compu$erve, Genie, Delphi and Bix used to do it too.
Competition for guest chats was hot and heavy some years ago.
And this is the FIRST time that I've ever seen public reaction and
"how dare you" type accusations and horror that people should be charged
for the pleasure. Well some people are willing to pay for the pleasure.
Just like those who want a telephone pay for it. Those who want cable tv
pay for it. Those who want to go to a concert to hear their favorite band
play live pay for it. If you don't want to pay for a phone, then send a
letter. Whoops, stamps cost money. If you don't want to pay for premium
channels, wait for the free broadcast channels to show the same movies three
years later. Whoops, they're edited and you have to sit through commercials.
If you don't want to pay for concerts, wait for the live album to come out.
Whoops, you have to pay for that too.
Harv |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 8 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by XDelusion on 15-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 7 (Harv Laser):
You tell them Harv! |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 9 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Dave Schmoldt on 15-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 7 (Harv Laser):
Yes, exclusive conferences were standard on value-added services such as CompuServe, GEnie, Delphi, PLink, etc. I used to spend hundreds of hours in those places. And thousands of dollars. :-(
As long as Harv makes transcripts of the conferences available in a reasonable amount of time, I have no problem with him limiting the access to the actual conferences to paid members. It's Harv's right to attempt to add value to his service. The users will decide if live access to Amiga reps, plus other services, is worth $150 a year.
Anyone else wanting to set up a free conference with Amiga reps can certainly give it a shot. It's a lot of work.
Hey Harv, how about a ZIP or TXT version of the transcript for us Amiga users who do our Web browsing on non-Amiga systems? My cable modem and ethernet card make it tough to browse on the Amiga, given the price and availability of Amiga Ethernet cards. :-)
Dave |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 10 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Teemu I. Yliselä on 15-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 9 (Dave Schmoldt):
How about a plain text version only? Not much point packing a 22k text file. It'd be much easier to just read it online. |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 11 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Harv Laser on 15-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 9 (Dave Schmoldt):
> Hey Harv, how about a ZIP or TXT version of the
> transcript for us Amiga users who do our Web browsing
> on non-Amiga systems? My cable modem and ethernet card
> make it tough to browse on the Amiga, given the price
> and availability of Amiga Ethernet cards. :-)
Hey Dave, how about just downloading LHA for Windoze
and putting it on your PeeCee? :) I won't be posting
ZIP versions. A TXT version would still have to be
HTMLized to put on a web page, else it'd just end up
as one big blob of unbroken text.
According to AmigaZone's log files, the transcript
had over 1500 downloads in one day. (http://www.amigazone.com/log)
or /log/urchin for newer, fancier logfiles.
Harv |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 12 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Sunrise on 15-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | Actually, at the very most all you need to do on either end of a text document
is the and tag. Supports preformatted text that way. Is it pretty? No. Does it work? es |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 13 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by A mouse in a House on 15-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | | I am happy that Harv, the unselfish Amiga man who is soley responsible for keeping the Amiga alive, has an oppurtunity to find a niche market with interviews to keep his sight open. The Amiga zone has been hurting for some time, for there have been price cuts for its services over the years to mantain a user base. It's good that Harv has an oppurtunity to make his site worth considering. In my honest opinion, the Amiga zone really offers nothing that a well informed Amiga Web surfer can find himself; however it does provide a service for those who need easy point and click info and is proof that capitialism is still strong and healthy in America. |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 14 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Harv on 15-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 13 (A mouse in a House):
> I am happy that Harv, the unselfish Amiga
> man who is soley responsible for
> keeping the Amiga alive, has an oppurtunity
> to find a niche market with
> interviews to keep his sight open.
Ahh, sarcasm will get you everywhere. So let's see.. what do you do
for a living? Would you keep doing it for free? Let's call your
employer and have him turn off your paychecks and see how long you last.
> The Amiga zone has been hurting for some
> time, for there have been price cuts
> for its services over the years to
> mantain a user base. It's good that Harv
You know not of what you speak. Back your claims up with facts or
they're meaningless. And be a man, don't hide behind a mousey
moniker. It's easy to accuse when shrouded by anonymity, isn't it.
> has an oppurtunity to make his site
> worth considering. In my honest opinion,
> the Amiga zone really offers
> nothing that a well informed Amiga Web
> surfer can find himself; however it
Ah yes, that old saw. Okay, go download a bunch of stuff from
Aminet, and then get Urban Mueller to support you when you have
problems with it.
Go ask a question on Usenet and demand rapid, accurate answers.
Your arguments are old, and they're tired, besides being
pointless. And have you phoned your telco provider, ISP, cable
company, newspaper, water company, power company, and everyone
else who sends you a monthly bill and told them their services
should all be free? After all, you can just lean out the window
and shout, put an antenna on your teevee, write your own news,
get buckets of water from a lake, generate your own electricity,
fill your car with trash and haul it to a landfill..
blah blah etc. Why pay for any of these services?
> does provide a service for those who need
> easy point and click info and is
> proof that capitialism is still strong and healthy in America.
And that is, to you, a bad thing, I suppose, eh?
Harv |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 15 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Amouse in a house on 15-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 14 (Harv):
I am glad that capitalism is alive and strong, if it were not, I would not be able to pay for my water, garbage, food, Amiga software, Amiga computers and My toaster Flyer. As for the support out there, its everywhere. I have never had any problems getting it, moreover, I rarley use aminet, therefore do not need help. Besides, the Authors of Aminet are quite helpful. So, why I do agree with you on most of your points, I too need to make living; I choose not to put my resources were they are not needed or wanted. To do other wise, would be a waste of my time. Everything you do or I do cost money, I just CHOOSE not to pay for the AmigaZone becuase there is no need for me to waste valuable resources and time on it. It has no value to me. This is a basic fundamental concept of economics, people will direct the resources were thay are most wanted or needed. Each time I spend a dollar I cast my vote were I want the resources to go to produce something of value. I am NOT saying that the AmigaZone Is not of value, many Amiga users love it;moreover I have friends that love it. I just baited you to see how you would respond to harsh critisism and I thank you for answering the question |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 16 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Mike on 15-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 15 (Amouse in a house):
>I just baited you to see how you would respond to harsh critisism and I thank >you for answering the question
Just my opinion, but do we really need to go around 'baiting' everyone, just to test whether the baited person will fly off the handle. This is the kind of stuff Amiga users are famously bad for, and why, if I was a developer for the Amiga, I'd probably just want to cry myself to sleep every night.
Sigh. Why do Amiga users continually insist on this sort of behavior? Isn't it enough that Mr. Lazer is here responding to the semi-serious questions that others post? Why does everyone take advantage of that to ask him all of these bullsh*t 'loyalty oath' questions, and generally try to test the man's patience, especially when the questioner has already made it abundantly clear that he has no want or need of Mr. Lazer's product. |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 17 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Don Cox on 15-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 16 (Mike):
If Harv is still reading here - thaks for setting this up and
especially for releasing the free transcript. There were some
interesting lines to read between. |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 18 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Harv on 15-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 16 (Mike):
> Just my opinion, but do we really need to go around 'baiting' everyone, just
> to test whether the baited person will fly off the handle. This is the kind
> of stuff Amiga users are famously bad for, and why, if I was a developer for
> the Amiga, I'd probably just want to cry myself to sleep every night.
There's a rather famous (although it's nearly 15 years old now so most
people have either forgotten it, or never got to read it) Usenet posting
from when Amiga was just the 1000, whose premise was "Why you can never
price a software product under $99.95 include support, and expect to make
any money."
Well a lot of the essay, and it was quite long, is irrelevant to this
discussion, but one part of it really hits home.. it concerns itself with a
semi-hypothetical early Amiga developer who had coded up a program, decided to
market it, take out advertising, do booths at Amiga shows, etc. etc. It goes though each
individual expense of his trip, and details how many copies of his program
he'd have to sell to pay for it - the flight, the hotel room, the
booth space, meals, etc. etc. Then there are the moochers - the reviewers
and user group officers who expect to get it for free (which is customary).
"Ahh, I only have to sell 10 more copies to cover the cost of printing
another 1000 copies of my literature because the show was so busy the first
day, the 1000 copies I brought with me are all gone.. funny, though I only
sold a half dozen copies of my program but gave out 1000 fliers.
At the trade show, he gives a very long demo to a guy who wants to see how his
program works, thinking he can sell this guy a copy. At the risk of
having to ignore other customers, or make them wait, because he was a one-man
booth operation, he spends about fifteen
minutes doing a demo for this guy, answering his every detailed question..
at the end of which he expects, or at least hopes the guy will
whip out his credit card. Instead, the guy say something like "I coded a
program almost exactly like yours, and mine even does a few things yours
doesn't, and I'm going to give it away for free."
Then there are the constant tales by developers of how people would say
things to them like "I'd buy your program, if it just did this one thing
that it doesn't do."
So yes, this baiting baloney has been going on forever.. it doesn't surprise
me that's what was going on in here. It's the product of people who have
too much spare time, and little or no consideration of others, and who get
off playing mind games. (And that's the polite version of the phrase).
Harv |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 19 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by MAS on 15-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | I do much of my surfing on a Mac clone. I've been
reluctant to ever use LHA on either of my 2 Amigas
because it seems to require the use of the CLI to
actually perform the un-archiving. Would it be
possible in future to put up the transcripts in an
easy to use, platform agnostic format? There are
still a few of us non-techies out there who would
like to try and keep up with all things Amiga. I'm
thankful that Harv cared enough to post the tran-
script, but I wished I didn't have jump through
quite so many hoops in order to read it. |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 20 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by B H on 16-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | Thanks for the Fleecy transcript Harv. I think your site is a good one, but many people are used to things being free on the internet, so they find it hard to justify paying (even a low price)for something that they think they might be able to get elsewhere. Take a look at a place like Yahoo, where PC users can now get a free ISP dial up, web page, email, live interviews with celebs, and so on. Have you thought of dropping the price, which would increase readership, and then you could increase advertising revenues? Just a thought. I appreciate the work put into the site. Out of all the info on Amiga of late, I'm most interested in your Fleecy transcript, which brings me to a point already mentioned.
Does anyone have a txt version of the transcript? Perhaps I'm lazy, but mostly, I don't want to over pollute my hd with 100s of small programs, and cramp my registry. Woe is Windoze. Woe is me. |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 21 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Adam Szymczak on 16-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 19 (MAS):
How hard is it to enter "LhA x filename.lha"? Or hard would it be to find an unarchiving GUI on aminet? |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 22 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Robert Morneau on 16-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 14 (Harv):
> The Amiga zone has been hurting for some
> time, for there have been price cuts
> for its services over the years to
> mantain a user base. It's good that Harv
You know not of what you speak. Back your claims up with facts or
they're meaningless. And be a man, don't hide behind a mousey
moniker. It's easy to accuse when shrouded by anonymity, isn't it.
Boy, you are really saying some golden words to win me over. ;)
> has an oppurtunity to make his site
> worth considering. In my honest opinion,
> the Amiga zone really offers
> nothing that a well informed Amiga Web
> surfer can find himself; however it
Ah yes, that old saw. Okay, go download a bunch of stuff from
Aminet, and then get Urban Mueller to support you when you have
problems with it.
Go ask a question on Usenet and demand rapid, accurate answers.
Your arguments are old, and they're tired, besides being
pointless. And have you phoned your telco provider, ISP, cable
company, newspaper, water company, power company, and everyone
else who sends you a monthly bill and told them their services
should all be free? After all, you can just lean out the window
and shout, put an antenna on your teevee, write your own news,
get buckets of water from a lake, generate your own electricity,
fill your car with trash and haul it to a landfill..
blah blah etc. Why pay for any of these services?
They are probably out there, but it is hard to believe that Amigans
need a AOL type service to get info or help. Amiga people (and former
Amiga people) are not please-hold-my-hand while I surf your site type
users. Or are they the types that need a word processor (example: Micro$loth
Word) that auto formats documents the way Bill would do them. In as far
as former Amiga people go, check out slashdot.org (linux country) when there
is some Amiga news, it goes nutts. Linux users like Amiga users like to (to
quote Fleecy in a email to Collis a while back) "Dig into the operating system".
With that said, most users don't have much use for ONE-STOP-SHOP sites on the
internet with all that is Amiga out there.
> does provide a service for those who need
> easy point and click info and is
> proof that capitialism is still strong and healthy in America.
And that is, to you, a bad thing, I suppose, eh?
Harv |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 23 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Mouse in the house on 16-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 22 (Robert Morneau):
Well, guys, Bill Gates rulzzzz, and until your Amiga Dreams come to past, you all are lost souls drifting in a open wind of despare!!!! Bill Rulzzzzzzz!!!! |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 24 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Bolton Peck on 16-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 23 (Mouse in the house):
To harv: Good job, I'll get it as soon as I can afford it (I already
use Amigaonline.net on my A3000T/PPC/PicassoIV/96)
To the Bill Rulezzz boy:
sell out, my brother. |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 25 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by MAS on 16-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 21 (Adam Szymczak):
Or hard would it be to find an unarchiving GUI on aminet?
Well, first I'd have to download it on the Mac clone, then put I'd have to put
it on a Mac formated floppy in order to move it over to my A2000. After I've done
all that, I'd need to go and download the actual archived transript and move it
over. Call me lazy, but it is a bit more trouble than it should be. It sounds as
though the actual file is pretty small- even by Amiga standards- so I don't see
any great necesity to compress the file anyway. It almost seems to be some sort
of test to see if one is worthy enough, in geek terms, to have the priveledge of
viewing the transcript. The better method might be to try and find something that will un-archive LHA files on the Mac clone. Anyone have any suggestions? |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 26 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Shaun Murray on 16-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 19 (MAS):
There is a version of LHA for the Mac called "MacLHA". I've been using it for years. |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 27 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 16-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 25 (MAS):
"Well, first I'd have to download it on the Mac clone, then put I'd have to put
it on a Mac formated floppy in order to move it over to my A2000. "
Not unless your Amiga is running CrossMac and you have an HD drive in the Amiga. 2000s don't usually. Use a DOS formatted 720k floppy, both will understand it if you're running Exchange/CrossDOS. Not really tricky is it though.
"After I've done all that, I'd need to go and download the actual archived transript and move it over."
Why not do both at the same time? You really are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
" Call me lazy, but it is a bit more trouble than it should be."
What! So Harv should use SIT, HQX (making it bigger) or ZIP and every Amiga owner would have to download a mac archiver. Get real.
" It sounds as though the actual file is pretty small- even by Amiga standards- so I don't see any great necesity to compress the file anyway. "
I'm with you there to be honest.
"It almost seems to be some sort of test to see if one is worthy enough, in geek terms, to have the priveledge of viewing the transcript. The better method might be to try and find something that will un-archive LHA files on the Mac clone. Anyone have any suggestions?"
Yeah, MacLHA. Try http://tucows1.echelon.ca/tucows/mac/compmac.html or on Info-Mac at http://hyperarchive.lcs.mit.edu/cgi-bin/NewSearch?key=lha
Now how difficult was that?
Jeez, some people are so lazy! |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 28 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Harv on 16-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | Okay, due to days of complaints, the first monthly AmigaZone live chat
transcript with Fleecy is now available to read online, uncompressed,
in plain text.
http://www.amigazone.com/pages/fleecy1.html
Now if anyone says "Waah I don't have a browser, please write out a copy in
longhand on parchment and mail it to me" I will [censored].
Harv |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 29 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by MAS on 16-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 27 (Anonymous):
Not unless your Amiga is running CrossMac and you have an HD drive in the Amiga. 2000s don't usually. Use a DOS formatted 720k floppy, both will understand it if you're running
Exchange/CrossDOS.
You are correct. Now that I think about it, I believe I actually have a ver. of
both, however, I've not yet reinstalled CrossMac since I installed 3.5 (and was
unsure if a newer ver. of CrossDOS has been included with 3.5). Hopefully, they
both will still work under 3.5.
You really are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
Possibly. But thankfully you guys helped out and I think I'll be able to de-
compress it on the Mac clone with MacLHA.
"Call me lazy, but it is a bit more trouble than it should be."
What! So Harv should use SIT, HQX (making it bigger) or ZIP and every Amiga owner would have to download a mac archiver. Get real.
Actually, if you read my original post (#19, I think) I only asked that it be
easy to use and platform agnostic. Since there seems to be an LHA program for
the Mac OS (a fact I was not aware of), mabey LHA already meets those criteria.
I'm a little new to some of this stuff, so please pardon my being so poorly in-
formed.
"The better method might be to try and find something that will
un-archive LHA files on the Mac clone. Anyone have any suggestions?"
Yeah, MacLHA. Try http://tucows1.echelon.ca/tucows/mac/compmac.html or on Info- Mac at http://hyperarchive.lcs.mit.edu/cgi-bin/NewSearch?key=lha
Thanks, I'll give it a try. I wish the the person who posted the 1st reply to my
original comment, would have mentioned this.
Jeez, some people are so lazy!
There are 2 sides to that coin. There are lazy end users (me, and most of the
rest of the world), and then there is a small minority of programers out there
who can't always be bothered to create a nice graphical front end for their
programs (program size and memory issues not withstanding). There is generally
more than enough laziness all around, I think. |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 30 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 16-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 28 (Harv):
Thanks Harv. It is much apreciated. I'm going to read it now. |
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| First AmigaZone Fleecy chat transcript available : Comment 31 of 31 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by BH on 17-Feb-2000 23:00 GMT | | Thanks Harv. Much appreciated for us lazy users. : ) Man. I wish I didn't have to |
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