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[News] 1GHz Athlon releasedANN.lu
Posted on 09-Mar-2000 21:57 GMT by Christian Kemp32 comments
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Sauro quotes BoingWorld: According to the AMD website the Athlon 1GHz chip has been released, and the first boxes that will be available will come from Compaq & Gateway. You can read a review of the new Athlon chip here. See AMD's web site too.
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 17 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion on 09-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Plain English):
Stay away from NT a while, it will clear your head.
First of all, the reason x86 is still around is because of backwards compatibility reasons, not because it is efficient or elegant.
Secondly, Motorola could have poured in billions of development (like Intel did) dollars to keep the 68K alive. Instead, they chose a clean break and went the PPC route together with IBM and Apple.
And in a sense, 68K lives on in the Coldfire range.
Could it have been done? Hell yes. Was it smarter to go PPC? Hell yes.
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 18 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion on 09-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Plain English):
What a pile of shit indeed.
It's not because a product is widely used because of compatibility reasons that it is good.
Fact of the matter is we are all using a VHS video system which is by far inferior at its inception to Video 2000 and Betamax.
Why? Marketing, marketing, marketing.
Just because it is used by many people/corporations, doesn't make it good.
Or do you think Windows 95/98 is the best OS around?
And if so, what the hell are you doing here?
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 14 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion on 09-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Hernendez):
Okay, I am some kind of dummy but at least I can compare Specint(95) and Specfp (95) values.
It's clear the G4's Altivec unit can produce performance of up to 4 gigaflops. However, I was referring to more common benchmarks.
Sure, the Altivec unit is quite nice for games, rendering and other multimedia stuff. But it needs to be supported.
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 15 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Plain English on 09-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Mark Olsen):
Motorola moved onto the PPC chips didn't they?
Do you think there was any more possible upgrades in the 68k chips?
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 16 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Plain English on 09-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Jofre Furtado):
What a pile of shite.
A3000 outperforming an Athlon 1GHz? What are you on about, can you explain?
"IBM'ers are out"? Apart from the worldwide sales of the x86 chips, the constant development, the most web sites ran on, the most servers in use, the most workstations in use, comercial businesses purely ran on, please explain this too, I don't get it.
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 11 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by sutro on 09-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
1 GHz ?? Don't believe the hype. I would use PPC over x86 any day.
I don't know if you have seen a G4 Mac in action.It feels faster than any
"800MHz" PC from the first time (and don't say it is just the OS ;-)
sutro
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 12 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Jofre Furtado on 09-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
Isn't there any info on the next PowerPC Processor?
IBM and Motorola have been the main CPU guys for the Amiga since PPC was invented. I think they said the new one is going to be around 4.5 GHz. And we all know that this new 1 GHz AMD Processor running Windows is about as fast as a 133 MHz PPC Amiga. Imagine the speed of the new PPC CPU. See if you can't get us more info on that- I'd love to see more.
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 13 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Jofre Furtado on 09-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Jofre Furtado):
Hey, everyone- stop bitchin-
The fact is that yes, the Athlon is a piece of sh** x86 CPU, but wintel machines only suck because Windows doesn't know it's recycle bin from it's ass. If you stuck the Tao OS or equivelant that knew HOW to use the hardware, it would be ALOT faster. Now, the CPU- it sucks compared to the Motorola PPC family- sorry. Running the same OS, it is still faster. They have what we call co-processing, alot better than x86's versions and parallel processing isn't not accomplish by IBM/compats- you only get about 500-550MHz if you put two x86 CPU's @450 together. Motorola/Ibm's PPC architecture is more efficient and literally adds the speed effieciently- AND haven't we forgotten the fact that x86 boards only go as high as 266MHz overclocked??? Here's another analogy for you- Would you stick 700 Horsepower V8 inside a Sable Wagon? Of course not, the damn thing'd fall apart- apply that knowledge to the fabulous x86 world. Any IBMers that come in here, be warned - you guys are out. Don't even get us started on your crap machines that didn't even have the common sense to survive the millenium. And my Dad's 040/CGX Amiga 3000 will beat the hell out of your Athlon garbage. As far as I'm concerned, the Windows people are part of the Bill Gates' Borg collective- One mind, one thought- make money, and make alot. At least the Amiga has been and always will be innovative- It survived over a decade of no development and still out performed Windows, let's see them try that...
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 10 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Hernendez on 09-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
You said: BTW: a 500 Mhz G4 is roughly equivalent to a 750 Mhz Athlon in every day use.
Equivalent at doing what kind of every day use? What kind of benchmarks are you talking about? Are both processors running the same operating system?
You're some kind of dummy.
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 9 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion on 09-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
It's sad to see so many people posting without taking the time to check their facts.
First of all, G4's @650 Mhz are ready for mass-production. But that's not the really important part.
Fact is that there was a serious flaw in the G4 design by Motorola that kept it from going beyond 500 Mhz.
Now that this flaw has been corrected, do you really think 650 MHz is the end? Expect to see a 1 gig G4 by Q3 at the very latest.
Plus IBM and Motorola have a lot up their sleeves: they will implement on-die L2 cache and Silicon on Insulator technology which will give the G4 a 60% performance boost at the same clock-speed.
And let's turn to 64bit: the G5 will be able to run 32 bit at native speeds. The Merced/Itanium chip fails miserably in this respect.
No, my money is still on the G4.
BTW: a 500 Mhz G4 is roughly equivalent to a 750 Mhz Athlon in every day use.
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 8 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Mark Olsen on 09-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Plain English):
/ Amiga's beloved 68k series reached it's physical limit years ago (at what? 60MHz, 75MHz? Ha).
Not the limit, Motorola stopped producing them because of lack of sales.
And get the hell out of here, you are the most annoying person posting here. Go back and play with your PC. And post on ZDNet.
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 3 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Sauro on 09-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Splatt):
Today I fell myself a little pessimistic...
You're right...but when we'll have software for G4 boards they will have 2GHZ cpus.....:))
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 4 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Matthew on 09-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Jakob Jancic):
IBM have produced a 650MHz PPC.
But yes, the Athlon is doing very nice stuff, especially considering the awful architecture legacy it has to support.
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 5 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Hattig on 09-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Splatt):
Oh dear - another G4 zealot.
I think that the PPC, and G4 in particular, are very nice processors, but they are not the most powerful. In fact, the benefits of a 500MHz G4 over a 500MHz x86 are imperceptible - most apps don't use Altivec yet, but then again, most apps don't use 3DNow or the Intel thingy. Altivec is nice, it is well designed, and it is powerful though.
But when it comes to comparing a 1GHz Athlon (SpecFP95 of 30+) with a 500MHz G4 (SpecFP of 22ish) you might think "Ah! the G4 is better MHz for MHz", but think of the problems of getting the G4 any faster (IBM might have 650MHz chips, but Motorola are playing the spoilt brat) and also the problems associated with making the processor faster (cache, bus speed, etc), which all mean that performance is not linear with speed.
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 2 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Jakob Jancic on 09-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Splatt):
The fastest G4 available is 500mhz. Its nowhere near as fast as a 1ghz x86 chip or even a 700mhz x86 chip.
Just because Athlon is a x86 compatible chip doesnt mean its a bad chip. On the other side you could say G4 is a failure (cant be clocked higher than 500mhz)
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 7 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Plain English on 09-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
1GHz, had to happen eventually.
I remember a few years ago when all other platforms using different processors were 'crapping' the x86 for being based on an old architecture, and prediction after prediction came out when a new processor speed came out saying "This is it. It can't possibly go beyond 75MHz, x86 is rubbish and old" then "200MHz is the limit", then "400MHz is the final limit".
EAT YOUR WORDS!
Does anybody even think there is a limit any more? The chip is so much tweaked and twisted from the original that the two could've come from different planets. You can't possibly use this as an argument anymore, if you do you've lost touch. Old architecture? I say mature.
Amiga's beloved 68k series reached it's physical limit years ago (at what? 60MHz, 75MHz? Ha).
I recently was arguing with some Amigian on ANN, and he asked me "Would you use a Bulldozer to mow a lawn?" (In reference to speeds of Amiga and PC, arguing that you don't need the speed - whatever)
Well, if I can get a cleaner cut of the grass, it takes me a fraction of the time to do the job, it costs less than a lawn mower, then yes. Why should I settle for second best.
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 6 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Matthew):
IBM has a 650MHz version ready for MASSproduction.
But comparing MHz is meaningless. The only thing that will tell you is how fast the processor is clocked, it says VERY little about performance. You shouldn't even use MHz as a "performance meter" when comparing the AMD with Intel, because they are two different processors (even if it uses the same instructionset), and they are good at different things (as is celeron, P2 and P3). And comparing MHz between a risc and a cisc processor is even more misleading.
The Athlon cisc processor at 1 GHz will absolutely give som major power under the hood, but a 650 MHz risc G4 could very well outperform it at certain areas, as rendering for example.
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 1 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Splatt on 09-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
Just another bloated x86 CPU..
Nothing special.
G4 still kills it
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 21 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Jofre Furtado on 10-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
The time of reckoning is coming for crap products. People are becoming more aware of technology and those who still don't get a clue or know anything about it still know enough to say that Windows bothers them. I have access to suped up Amigas, IBM/comp's, and G series iMacs-- I know the deal- I've used them all- still do. I sold computers and peripherals and did upgrades & installs for them- I use them in college and at work for graphics & web design. I know what is good and what is bad. Amiga was beyond its time from day one- the first multimedia PC ever- It awed us then, it awes us now, and it will continue to leave us in awe in the future. Anyone who even likes Windows is a retard. The fact is they've been forced to use it for so long, they don't know where else to go. Amiga will soon provide them with a way.
Nice arguments guys-
Amigans never say "DIE!"
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 20 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Ventzislav Tzvetkov on 10-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
Let's guys make a flashback. I still remember that when comes to performance x86 and MC processor with same MHZ MC every time beats. But these pathetic PC people still thinks that more MHZ=more Speed.In 1993 I had a A500 with MC68000 7.14 HMz and I outperformed a friends 286/20mhz but he aways say it cann't be and his computer is much faster. So I think that 1GHZ AMD is just another commercial trick like these in shops about prices like $999.99. But most of people when buying a computer takes advice from the seller and he says them more MHZ=More CPU. What a jerks.
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 19 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by the man in the shadows on 10-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
This whole posting makes you wonder if this "Plain English" person is an X-Box zealot. "I give unto you, my only son"
I give you... Gatizm... the ability to freely worship anything that Bill Gates does. So, let me guess here really quick Mr. English... The Amiga is dead cause you said so right? Or wait, I know... let me pull up those posts that you have put up on comp.sys.amiga.ADVOCACY and start quoting your awe inspiring worth to the crowd that wants to listen [cherp][cherp]... havn't you gotten a clue yet?
And the crowd goes mild...
The crowd went that way...
Let's take a look at today's marketing strategy and base it around dog food. Do you know why your dog will like the food that you buy them? No you don't. All that you know is that the food that they eat, is something that they eat. That's the normal mentality of today's computer users that are out there buying up PCs and Macs. They don't know what they want. Hell, Apple proved to the world that speed didn't matter for squat with their iMAC. Can you give me an explination for that? OOO, the Athlon is faster... but the iMAC looks nifty sitting by my fridge.
Try this as a test. Go out and get a dog if you don't have one. Give them their food every day and when the finish it, give them a small treat, and take them for a walk. Do that for about 8 years strait. What is goin go to happen if you start taking them for a walk without giving them their treat and then feeding them. They go nuts and start getting confused. Some dogs will even wiz all over the carpet/house until you take them outside after they eat. What's the point? Put a PC in front of someone for 8 years and you'll get the same result. So lay off this "Amiga is shite" attitude and go bugger some linux geeks... er wait, then you'd be bugging me... how about some mac... no, I've got one of those too...
Ladies and Gentleman of the jury, I give you... Plain English.
Have you reached your verdict?
(just a side note... don't get me started)
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 24 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Plain English on 11-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Jofre Furtado):
As I have said repeatedly before I don't live my life by Windows NT or IBM stuff or even the x86, I use them at work and develop on them.
I worked as a contractor for a number of years, in banks, chemistry companies, mobile phone companies, timber companies (they make a lot of money), web companies (moving to Linux which is nice) and I can tell you that the majority of servers in use on these sites are either NT or NetWare.
This site is for anyone who wants to visit, you can't stop me giving my opinion, I live in a democracy where everyone has their say no matter how unpopular. You can give legitimate answers that don't include ignorance or slagging people off or you can NOT REPLY. I have an open mind contrary to what you may think, can you say the same?
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 23 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Plaion English on 11-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
No, I don't think that Windows 95 / Windows 98 are the best OS's about, I don't even claim to know which OS is. My personal preference is Linux, my business's preference is NT.
Do people in these sites just like having a crack at Microsoft and x86 because it gives them something to do? An easy target? If you can do better, DO and I'll buy that product instead.
Proud of your ignorance? (And you are)
I remember when some guy from MS said that Microsoft software was a work of art, you all got up in a line to knock him down on this site.
(Before you say I'm proud to be ignorant of hating Amiga or not getting my facts right let me say that I've been a user of Amiga for years back to v1.3 of my old beloved A500, I use and administer Apple Macs, and Sun Unix SQL servers not to mention a Linux Firewall, I have experience in lots of OS's and software on server / client models.)
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 22 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Jofre Furtado on 11-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Plain English):
Pile of shit?
Really?
I work at a Graphic Design firm that uses PC's- I'll have you know that MOST servers, even when the software is WindowsNT, are ACTUALLY UNIX-- NOT x86!
Constant Development? Oh, Please- and where did it go? I see no improvements...
Picking up clock speed by number is not progress, I'm sorry. Pentium class CPU's are good, don't get me wrong- but NOT as good as PPC- ESPECIALLY IF THE FREAKIN OS DOESN'T KNOW SHIT FROM SHINGLES AND DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT!!! Are we paying attention? My argument was not that they totally suck, but that they are not as good as PPC- The OS that currently runs on them is Windows, which renders the hardware near useless, not the hardware itself- but you can NOT tell me that putting something like TAO's Elate or Linux OS's on a Pentium class system will out perform a PPC running the same OS. PowerPC also has a superior architecture beyond the CPU and into the board and utilizes hardware properly- Wintels do NOT do this! Custom boards are superior to industry standard- we all know this- The Pentium class CPU's are made for a board that sucks and does not perform well- it doesn't go on anything else, therefore it is slower due to the bus speed anyway. Clock speed DOES NOT MATTER in reality. Co-processing capabilities are not as efficient. You want proof? Take a 68040 Amiga (25MHz) and put next to its competitor, the 486 (at 33MHz)- Um, I don't think that an Episode of Babylon5 or Jurrasic Park will be created on the latter- the other already proved it could. Defend it all you want, but Amigans stuck by their product because it was good-better and demanded no less- Windows people and MAC people have ripped each other off, pissed each other off, and made their crap systems into a religion more than anything else- just keep an open mind.
And I know I should talk after this response, but PLEASE keep the profanity down in here- I'm sure that the ANN host doesn't appreciate it and it's just not appropriate for a computer discussion sight. And if you're gonna be a pessimistic "IBMer", then screw- this is NOT a sight for you.
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 27 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Plain English on 13-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (loic):
Excellent point(s).
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 28 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Unleaded on 13-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Plain English):
-This site is for anyone who wants to visit, you can't stop me giving my
-opinion, I live in a democracy where everyone has their say no matter how
-unpopular. You can give legitimate answers that don't include ignorance or
-slagging people off or you can NOT REPLY. I have an open mind contrary to what
-you may think, can you say the same?
Plain, you don't need to get all tearful and sad. It's okay, this is just a reader forum. We won't beat you up and take your lunch money like the other kids did to you in high school, and we won't make fun of your thick coke bottle glasses like everyone else did.
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 26 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by loic on 13-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
Hello, everybody ! The problem with this kind of discussion is that everybody is right and everybody is wrong.
Yes, PPC have got a far superior design than x86, and who cares! Buy to CPU one PPC and one x86, if you don't
have motherboard, graphic cards around, they are totally useless, you can take the CPU
beetween your fingers and say the PPC is really most beautiful becoz it's more efficient,
on another hand, the x86 can have more raw power. You have got the same type of
arguments of the PC geeks people 6 years ago.
Let's face it, the amiga is not any more in the performance race, and who cares!
You have to use a computer, dont look at it! If you stop your arguments on the
effieciency if you never use it. Babylon5 was done on amiga becoz people use it instead
of speak about it! (and also becoz videotoaster was amiga only).
PPC motherboard appears only now (PowePc open platform), they are no drivers, so it's useless.
At the moment, it's more effiency to buy an x86 in fact, even if i largely agree with you
the "theoritical" PPC equivalent is a more elegant and efficient solution.
In 2 years the cpu will be 2ghz, the gfx card will be at 300mhz or more,
256mo+ ram, 40go hd, etc, etc... Just buy or use the computer wich fit your
needs. If you need 1Ghz, buy 1Ghz, if your 68k cpu does the work well, keep your 68k.
However, if you need a lot of raw power (mp3, video compression, rendering, you
don't have a lot of choice at the moment. The amigaos, mac and linux software
does not cope with the choice of Mickeysoft ones.
It's the same as for the cars, each car has got different engine power, handling, design,
colors, price, you choose your car with these paramaters.
If you like your old car, you can keep it, but if it use a special gasoline and
you find any more this gasoline in th gasstation, you canno't use any more your car.
It stays in the garage, and with a tear in the eyes, you'll say "that was a good car".
So if you don't want to say that, code new applications for your beloved amiga
and don't talk about mhz,
or stop to be hypocrite and use an x86 box to work and an amiga for nostalgia the week-end
PS: Hotmail is my spam mail, i look at it but if you want to trash a mickeysoft server
i don't care, i will even perhaps appreciate it :-)))
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 25 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by loic on 13-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
Hello, everybody ! The problem with this kind of discussion is that everybody is right and everybody is wrong.
Yes, PPC have got a far superior design than x86, and who cares! Buy to CPU one PPC and one x86, if you don't
have motherboard, graphic cards around, they are totally useless, you can take the CPU
beetween your fingers and say the PPC is really most beautiful becoz it's more efficient,
on another hand, the x86 can have more raw power. You have got the same type of
arguments of the PC geeks people 6 years ago.
Let's face it, the amiga is not any more in the performance race, and who cares!
You have to use a computer, dont look at it! If you stop your arguments on the
effieciency if you never use it. Babylon5 was done on amiga becoz people use it instead
of speak about it! (and also becoz videotoaster was amiga only).
PPC motherboard appears only now (PowePc open platform), they are no drivers, so it's useless.
At the moment, it's more effiency to buy an x86 in fact, even if i largely agree with you
the "theoritical" PPC equivalent is a more elegant and efficient solution.
In 2 years the cpu will be 2ghz, the gfx card will be at 300mhz or more,
256mo+ ram, 40go hd, etc, etc... Just buy or use the computer wich fit your
needs. If you need 1Ghz, buy 1Ghz, if your 68k cpu does the work well, keep your 68k.
However, if you need a lot of raw power (mp3, video compression, rendering, you
don't have a lot of choice at the moment. The amigaos, mac and linux software
does not cope with the choice of Mickeysoft ones.
It's the same as for the cars, each car has got different engine power, handling, design,
colors, price, you choose your car with these paramaters.
If you like your old car, you can keep it, but if it use a special gasoline and
you find any more this gasoline in th gasstation, you canno't use any more your car.
It stays in the garage, and with a tear in the eyes, you'll say "that was a good car".
So if you don't want to say that, code new applications for your beloved amiga
and don't talk about mhz,
or stop to be hypocrite and use an x86 box to work and an amiga for nostalgia the week-end
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 32 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Brad Jacobsen on 14-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Brad Jacobsen):
::"hardware on about 200f our workstations."
should read "about 20 percent of our workstations."
-brad
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 31 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Brad Jacobsen on 14-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (jim):
Aaah! Sounds like you got bit by PeeCee compatability issues. This problem is not
unique to AMD products. I remember installing NT at work and running into "incompatable"
hardware on about 20% of our workstations. Rather basic ones at that. With the plethora
of mobos/chipsets/bios, U-Name-It-cards,.etc. there are going to be compatability problems.
Ugh.
Chalk one up for the Amiga! ;-)
As far as cheap goes, I was comparing Athlon to comparable PIIIs or G4 650MHz. (I confess that I
don't actually know the price of G4 650MHz.)
Upon reflection, while running under Elate, having the fastest state-of-the-art-neato chip
really won't be that important as I believe it will use distributive processing!
Just hook up all those old machines in a network and WEEEEEEE! Virtual UberProcessor!
Chalk another one up for Amiga!
I'm with ya jim, and I can't wait either!
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 29 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Brad Jacobsen on 14-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
Hey, lets take it easy on Plain English. You may not agree with him but he does make some valid points,
points that should be debated, not just shouted down. It's people like him that help keep us attached
to the real world. I agree that a 1GHz Athlon will open a serious can of whoop-ass on any A3000. It won't
be pretty but in typical brute-force fashion, it would destroy any Amiga while running calculation intensive
applications, which are becoming more and more prevelant. Case in point, I enjoy working with my Amigas but
it is becoming more and more difficult to justify rendering animations on them. Takes so long that I find
myself not experimenting enough. (I really wish NewTek would make a PPC version of LightWave for the Amiga!)
Athlon is cheap and NOT Intel. Doesn't seem like a bad choice to run Elate/Amiga or NTO/Phoenix on. *I*
still prefer G3/G4 but I'll embrace anything that gives Intel a run for their money.
1GHz Athlon released : Comment 30 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by jim on 14-Mar-2000 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Brad Jacobsen):
Well I've got bunches of Amiga legacy hardware and no apologies. Let's see if anyone is still using the Athlon processor 10 years from now--
hopefully they will be that would be a good thing in the face of all the induced obsolesence.
Anyway-- I don't consider the Athlon cheap, unless that is I'm trying to upgrade me old amigas to PPCs.
The big problem with taking any real advantage of the Athlon or any other AMD product is that the
motherboards they use just aren't rel compatible with a lot of excellent video or affordable video editing hardware
without relly digging into what the manufacturer of the card says is OK and that custom drivers are available for--
such as the new matrox RT2000 DV editing card. It's gonna give the NT Toaster a real run for the money because
the NT Toaster only digitizes with no compression and doesn't accept Firewire -- which really is a great thing for video input.
The AMD people really screwed people like me who investeded in their K6 series only to find that all the adds about the processor were
IMHO a bunch of crap because the floating point performance has proven dismal.
AMD rewarded us by making absolutley no upgrade path on the motherboards, etc.
As far as I'm concerned THEY LIED through their vendor advertising which promised PentiumII and better performance!
Whatever, I'm still watching the Amiga closely. I just want something to happen Fast!!!
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