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[News] Corel press release at amiga.comANN.lu
Posted on 05-Apr-2000 19:24 GMT by Christian Kemp18 comments
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There's a press release up at amiga.com that describes the Amiga/Corel relationship.
Corel press release at amiga.com : Comment 1 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Robert Simmonds on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
Looking good!
At last I feel we are moving somewhere. I just hope this is actual movement and not hot air, but by the looks of things, something BIG is gonna happen soon!
Next thing I want to see is Amiga advertising in the sunday suppliments....
Robert Simmonds, Editor of Amiga Showcase. http://www.amigashowcase.org.uk
Corel press release at amiga.com : Comment 2 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin Lanchbury on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
This is the sort of news we've all needed to hear. It seems Amiga and Corel are as closer now than they were when Jim Collas issued a similar release months ago. Let's face it - for any new platform to be taken seriously today it going to have to provide compatible software to run Quatro Pro/Excel and Wordperfect/Word spreadsheets and documents. It's even better if the platform can actually RUN Corel's Word Perfect Suite 2000 or Micro$haft's Orifice 2000!!!
Corel press release at amiga.com : Comment 3 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
i do hope that sun makes sure there is a port of star office to so you have some choice. I prefer star office.
Corel press release at amiga.com : Comment 4 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Nobody else on 04-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
I just wish they'd clarify once and for all exactly what role
Linux will play in the future end-user Amigas.
For instance, what is the meaning of "provide our Corel LINUX OS
to Amiga's world-class systems"? I thought it was Amiga that would
provide the multimedia interface (hosted Amie?) to the Corel Linux.
On the other hand, a statement like "There will be full support for
the existing install base of Amiga users", if it actually relates
to the Corel alliance, is VERY interesting.
Corel press release at amiga.com : Comment 5 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Marco Ridoni on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Nobody else):
I do agree and, BTW,they say:
"Amiga's multi-media consumer interface runs extremely smooth and fast on Corel LINUX OS, and the compatibility between these great products has provided Linux developers with a new and exciting way to create incredible multi-media titles, and games for Linux. "
So this means either the new OS/interface is out already (and we don't know it)
or this PR is a bit hyped.
All the best
Corel press release at amiga.com : Comment 6 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by John B on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Marco Ridoni):
The whole thing sounds like BS to me. All mostly Hype, if Corel has had
developer systems why wasn't there any demos at the show? Also no new
demo stuff from Amiga :^( Just same TAO stuff.
Plus the sites still F'd up. Very unproffesional way to do PR IMHO.
Maybe not so humble.
Corel press release at amiga.com : Comment 7 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by bbuilder on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (John B):
Not a very good press release. It leaves many issues open. Well, perhaps they are.
- Corel Linux will be used on some hosted AmigaOE/AmigaOS/Amie versions (but not in DEV box)
- AmigaOE/OS... can be used as a kind of X-windows replacement in Linux machines
(AmigaOE provides less overhead, better HW abstraction, better support to HW libraries: 2D,3D,sound,multiprocessing etc...)
- Amiga... makes it possible that the same apps/games can be used also in Windows Boxes, PSX2/Nintendo128/whatever, without recompilation.
(And it works also in the other directions: apps from windows to linux, to cell phones, to palm tops, ...)
"...we are thrilled to provide our Corel LINUX OS to Amiga's world-class systems."
This is not about developer system, so, Gary/Fleecy/Bill PLEASE, make it very (/more) clear that there WILL BE also non-hosted, NATIVE Amie/AmigaOS systems ((elate RTOS as 'host'?)).
Perhaps it could be like this:
- Amiga OS is the native OS for the 'Amie' HW.
- Amiga OE is the name for the hosted OS on any HW/OS.
Corel press release at amiga.com : Comment 8 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (John B):
"Plus the sites still F'd up. Very unproffesional way to do PR IMHO. "
"F'd up"... you mean that pictures/links do not work?
I think the site is ok, but DNS/proxy servers suck and that is not Amiga's fault.
Corel press release at amiga.com : Comment 9 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
From the web site:
"Amiga pioneered the creation of multi-media, and easy to use graphical interfaces 20 years ago [...]"
20 years ago there was no Amiga at all. Perhaps Bill should learn what
an Amiga really is. I guess he has not much clue.
Corel press release at amiga.com : Comment 10 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by DarthJerbo on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (bbuilder):
I have to agree, it's a disjointed and frustrating press release. I can't tell if it's just so badly written you can't tell what it means, or if it really doesn't mean anything. Either way (speaking as somebody who is openly rooting for Amiga, Inc.) it's pretty disappointing.
I have no clue what to make of a sentence like:
"Amiga Incorporated, is pleased to announce that its new multi-media consumer interface is well supported by Corel LINUX OS and other Corel applications including the newly released WordPerfect Office 2000 for Linux."
I can understand an OS supporting an interface (Corel Linux can host the Amiga interface, no problem). But applications? Are they trying to say WPO2000 will run within the Amiga interface? Even without an underlying Linux OS? I find that hard to believe! (It's great if true, though!) Or are they jsut saying, running the Amiga interface on top of Linux won't prevent the Linux box from running WPO2000? If so, is that really news?
Hey, Bill & Fleecy - if you need somebody with some writing experience to help out with this stuff, drop me a line! My journalism experience tells me that vague announcements like this lead to confusion and unfounded expectations. And those are bad things!
DarthJerbo
-"Your old order's rapidly fading.
-Please get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand,
-For the times, they are a-changing!"
--B. Dylan
Corel press release at amiga.com : Comment 11 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by bbuilder on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (DarthJerbo):
:I can understand an OS supporting an interface (Corel Linux can host the Amiga interface, no problem). But
: applications? Are they trying to say WPO2000 will run within the Amiga interface? Even without an underlying Linux
: OS?
That is how I understood it. Otherwise the annoucement is completely meaningless/worthless.
Corel press release at amiga.com : Comment 12 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Robert Simmonds on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Anonymous):
"20 years ago there was no Amiga at all. Perhaps Bill should learn what
an Amiga really is. I guess he has not much clue."
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Oh come on. The people at Amiga probably know more than the rest of us put together. After all, its their livelihood.
I really do wish people would stop telling Amiga how to do their job. To get anything out of the door in 4 months is quite a feat on its own!
I think they have done bloody well to get the backing they have. I think we should just wait and see, and give them the support they need in the mean-time.
Robert Simmonds, Editor of Amiga Showcase. http://www.amigashowcase.org.uk
Corel press release at amiga.com : Comment 13 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by ACGregory on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
Actually, the announcement appears a bit different than the Gateway-Corel
announcement of a few months ago. But, it seems like the message
is that the new Amiga will be able to run Corel apps which has
been written for Linux. This will be because Elate is supposed to
be able to interpret any program to run on any "mapped" processor.
This might be a way to get Linux people interested in the Amiga,
but the announcement is vague regardless...I would guess that the
plan is to have Linux people find a new platform, and if the
new Amiga (supposed) is a step ahead in technology above what is
commonly passed off as "advanced" they may start writing for
it...at least this is what I am guessing....
But the announcement was vague, somewhat different from the
Gatemiga/Corel announcement but similar enough to make me think
that Mr. McEwan sees value in teaming up with a big player...
Just my 2 centavos.....
Corel press release at amiga.com : Comment 14 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Joe on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Anonymous):
In the late 70's early 80's is when work on the Amiga was started by Hi-Toro. So the sentence is technically correct.
Corel press release at amiga.com : Comment 15 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by szutoman on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Joe):
This is true!!!(-:
Corel press release at amiga.com : Comment 16 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Ed on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Robert Simmonds):
: Comment 12 of 15
: Oh come on. The people at Amiga probably know more than the rest of us put
: together. After all, its their livelihood.
Oh, yes, Amiga bought a clue along with the assets from Gateway, sure.
That livelihood comment is rediculous, consider:
just like it was Mehdi Ali's livelihood at Commodore...
just like it was Petro's livelihood at Escom...
just like it was Jeff Schindlers livelihood at Gateway...
just like it was Jim Collas livelihood at Gateway....
: I really do wish people would stop telling Amiga how to do their job. To get
: anything out of the door in 4 months is quite a feat on its own!
Actually it isn't people telling Amiga how to do their job,
Its people telling Amiga to do its job -- Something, Anything
positive with the assets purchased from Gateway for the current
Amiga userbase.
And exactly What have they got out the door in 4 months?
More hype, more hot air, more non-existant hardware partners,
What? And why should we use your definition of 4 months and
not Bill McEwens "I've been working on this for the last few years"
statement instead?
-Ed
Corel press release at amiga.com : Comment 17 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Mart on 05-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
First: I realy like that things are moving like they are right now.......
But, I've got some concerns !
Why do they (amiga/corel) keep mentioning LINUX ?
They are mentioning it like corel stuff will only run on the new Amiga, when Amiga will be hosted on top of LINUX !
Why does the DEV box need 2 kernels to run ? LINUX and ELATE !
Isn't it cheaper AND faster to run Elate natively on the AMD chip ?
If Elate runs natively on 'so much wonderfull processors' why havent anyone seen this ?
If it does, why do they keep it hidden away ? (I would be proud to show of its power to the public !)
I thought ELATE was finished, so why needs it LINUX to run ?
I think that Elate doesnt run natively on any hardware right now !
Thats why it needs LINUX....
I hope it will soon, but I doubt it...
Again these are just some concerns..
mart
Corel press release at amiga.com : Comment 18 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 06-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Joe):
No the sentence is completely wrong. When they started at Hi-Toro they were working on the hardware first, there was no OS and Intuition wasn't the first thing they made.
Actually I was wrong too. Bill McEven is not the only one without much clue. You can perhaps announce a new partnership with him and have it to go on www.amiga.com
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