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[News] MUI v4?ANN.lu
Posted on 29-Apr-2000 11:31 GMT by Christian Kemp8 comments
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In a thread on Moo Bunny, people spotted references to a v4 of MUI. Apparently, Voyager's readme states that one of the recent changes was optimized event handlers handling for MUI4, while this overview of MorphOS talks about a possible PPC MUI conversion.
MUI v4? : Comment 1 of 8ANN.lu
Posted by Andrea Monni on 28-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
Also Olli and Zapek talked about a fantomatic MUI4 in the V mailing list. Any
comment from SASG?
MUI v4? : Comment 2 of 8ANN.lu
Posted by Chris Roccati on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Andrea Monni):
The references about mui 3.9 and 4.0 are everywhere in the VaporWare
products. But the SASG web site is more or less dead since 2 years:
the last news is dated 29-may-1998!
Honestly, being a paying customer of VaporWare i'd be quite happy if
they actually tried to run their products on the version of MUI the
customers are likely to use (i.e. 3.8) for currently voyager is VERY
far from being a product worth his price; I don't know if using MUI4.0
instantly becomes "solid as a rock" but with my version is very far
from that status.
MUI v4? : Comment 3 of 8ANN.lu
Posted by Remco Komduur on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
I don't think that SASG do anything anymore on the Amiga being that the site has been dead for 2 years. I have mailed numerous times to one of these people to ask if they were going to develop MUI further and if it wouldn't be time that they let the source code go so that some people in the Amiga community can go and develop it further.
I mean how bloody hard is it to just recompile MUI for 68020, 68040 and 68060 processors. The whole program is still for 68000.
Here is a tip from me: get the program patchfor020 from Aminet. This program replaces math routines from various C compilers in programs. Almost every file from MUI is patched. The source code from this program is also in the archive so that someone can even enhance it furhter.
MUI v4? : Comment 4 of 8ANN.lu
Posted by Justin on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Remco Komduur):
Alot of people have also reported that they didn't get answers to
their registration request from SASG. Recently, there was also a fake
MUI4 on aminet which contained a virus.
MUI v4? : Comment 5 of 8ANN.lu
Posted by the man in the shadows on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Justin):
MUI4 on the Aminet was not a virus... it just created a backdoor and sent an email to 'Stunzi' (for lack of a better word) demanding that he works on MUI4... Just ask Olli Wagner of Vapor, he can confirm this one.
MUI v4? : Comment 6 of 8ANN.lu
Posted by Neko on 30-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Andrea Monni):
How stupid do you think you make yourselves look when you say "I don't think
anything is happening with MUI because the SASG website hasn't been updated"?
There are many sites on the web that go untouched for ages while products are
being developed. I bet I could find webpages detailing things like the Coldfire
cards we were supposed to get.
With regards to the guy who commented on Vapor "running Voyager on MUI 4" -
just how stupid do you think Vapor and Stefan Stuntz are that they'd
intentionally make their new software incompatible with that of the entire
userbase?
Neko
MUI v4? : Comment 7 of 8ANN.lu
Posted by Chris Roccati on 30-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Neko):
: How stupid do you think you make yourselves look when you say
: "I don't think anything is happening with MUI because the SASG
: website hasn't been updated"? There are many sites on the web that
: go untouched for ages while products are being developed.
On the average, an abandoned page is sign of an abandoned product.
Moreover there are no updates to MUI itself since the end of 1997, so
it's not just a matter of a web page...
: With regards to the guy who commented on Vapor "running Voyager on
: MUI 4" - just how stupid do you think Vapor and Stefan Stuntz are
: that they'd intentionally make their new software incompatible with that
: of the entire userbase?
They often claim a certain version is "rock stable" whereas the
shipping product is VERY FAR from that status. You can think it in 2
ways: either they're deliberately saying something that is not true or
their development and test platform is different from the one used by
their customers (intentionally or not). That's plain, I don't care how
well does Voyager run under MorphOS or with MUI 4.x; none of the two
is available to the users. I'd like better to have Voyager run well on
AmigaOS 3.x and MUI 3.8; that's it
MUI v4? : Comment 8 of 8ANN.lu
Posted by Remco Komduur on 30-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Neko):
A product that hasen't got an update for more than 2 years is plain and simple dead. A simple recompile for faster processors wouldn't be al that hard and could already have been available on their site.
And what do you think about PROGRESS REPORTS. I mean, MUI is hardly that good that it doesn't need developing anymore( my point about recompiling).
I really hate these people who don't even turn over the source code to another when they leave the Amiga( not even for a small amount of money).
Maybe we should undertake some action here and try with the help of Amiga and other people and companies to get the source code into the free again. MUI needs an update bad.
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