| Posted on 30-Apr-2000 08:53 GMT by Christian Kemp | 50 comments
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This topic has recently been brought up in comp.sys.amiga.misc, but was also discussed elsewhere before. With what seems like more and more Aminet mirrors closing down or becoming very unreliable, it was suggested that Amiga should host a mirror on their site. Seeing how Aminet is a prime resource for past, present and future Amiga programs and files, I think it would be a sensible decision for Amiga to either host, or sponsor, a dedicated mirror on a reliable server with a good backbone. What do you think?
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 1 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Victor on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | | Yes, they could and should do it, as it wouldn't be a big investment to them. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 2 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Richard Lane on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | | Excellent idea. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 3 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Trizt on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | | Yes, I think this is the only way to go, for without AmiNet we will loose much about Amiga. IMHO AmiNet is one of the things which has made the Amiga community to what it is and without it the community will be weaker. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 4 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by AmiFreak on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | I think AmiNet is a victem of the succes of internet, because as more and more
people are getting online less people will be buying the aminet cd's. Which
in turn means less revenue, maybe they should add banners to their websites ? |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 5 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by AmiFreak on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | I think AmiNet is a victem of the succes of internet, because as more and more
people are getting online less people will be buying the aminet cd's. Which
in turn means less revenue, maybe they should add banners to their websites ? |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 6 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by MashMan on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | | Great, someone go tell amiga! |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 7 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Teemu I. Yliselä on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | I just fear hosting an Aminet site could have the potential of bringing Amiga to legal difficulties. People have been known to spread viruses and programs with backdoors through Aminet, and although it's been controlled, some can always slip through and get downloaded by unsuspecting users. If someone wanted to make life hard for Amiga, they could do it this way.
I don't see sponsoring would be any problem, though, so maybe this would be the way to go. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 8 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Sven Harvey on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | | It would be a lot more useful and stable for the Aminet to reside on Amigas server as its home rather than a mirror IMO. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 9 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by AdmV0rl0n on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | i originally suggested that aminet have a home with amiga via CSAM. However, when it comes to certain people
putting their money where their mouth is thats when you notice the true commitment
to "community" spirit.
IMHO its just more bull. Still, Gary and other amiga staffers had the opportunity to respond on the newsgroups
and chose not to.
Kind Regards
AdmV |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 10 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Hagge on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | Humms, Swedish University NETwork(SUNET) has an aminet mirror, which is both fast and reliable.
Why not take a look at it?
http://ftp.sunet.se/~aminet/ |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 11 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Trizt on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 7 (Teemu I. Yliselä):
TY: I just fear hosting an Aminet site could have the potential of
TY: bringing Amiga to legal difficulties. People have been known to
TY: spread viruses and programs with backdoors through Aminet
I think you sound all to silly, I don't think such things would increce only for an AmiNet server is hosted at ftp.amiga.com/pub/aminet or/and www.amiga.com/aminet
Amiga could only get legal problems if they would do as microsoft and put in backdoors in their software.
I think we should have a namelist collection for support for the Aminet in a way or another from Amiga Inc, so that AI won't be flooded of alot of e-mails about that.
Maybe ANN would be a good place for a such thing? |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 12 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Filip Dab-Mirowski on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | That`s a very good idea!
Aminet is somekind of computer miracle which is not present
on any other platforms. Most of use wouldn`t "survive"
without programs we can get from it. Amiga should make
such server, it is not such a big effort for a company... |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 13 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Mike on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | Yes, I think this is a good idea. Aminet already is the standard way
for many companies to distribute demos or patches. If Amiga hosts
the site themselves, this could also be the officially endorsed
method. And if they feel they need to place banner ads to help them
fund it, then so be it as that's really just a fact of life on
the internet. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 14 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Marco Ridoni on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | | I hope Amiga will do this but please, remember that setting up a mirror of something as large and used as Aminet is not a trivial task and requires a good effort both for what it concerns servers and bandwidth. It's something Amiga Inc. can certainly afford, but it's not like hooking up your PC to the Internet via a cable modem with a Aminet CD on the tray of your CD reader... |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 15 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Scott Konowal on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | I don't think this would be in the best interest of Aminet's future.
I think there are certain practices of business that could inhibit the
content of Aminet even further than it is today. Not only will the legality
of the software comeunder closer scrutiny, but also the content. Amiga has
already their displeasure at the AROS project. What will become of those
archives? What will besome of other archives that are seen as being in
conflict with Amiga's self interests? Wouldn't hosting packages, especially
commercial demos, be a form of endorsement? Neutrality offers greater
acceptance. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 16 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Victor on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 15 (Scott Konowal):
I have to agree in some degree,
I'm thinking about the same things.
Or not. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 17 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Robert Simmonds on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | | Im not really bothered who hosts an aminet mirror, providing it is fast, reliable and a full mirror. Amiga could host it, and I assume it would cost them minimal amounts of money to stick a new HD in their Co-lo servers and run a mirror. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 18 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Sean Martin on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | | About time really, damn good idea. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 19 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Manos S. Pappas on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | Well, I read all the postings and they all have a common fault:
You suggest that either Amiga Inc. should host Aminet or that Aminet guys should advertise in order to get some money.
The problems are:
1. The Amiga Inc. site will shortly become overloaded with requests so it's slow.
2. Aminet CANNOT advertise while using resources (i.e hard disk space) that got for free from various organizations (universities etc). It's like selling something that isn't yours.
What WE and the Amiga Inc. should do is to "stream" Aminet into more broad shareware/freeware channels and maybe integrate it into them (like download.com or Tucows). All these sites have EXCELLENT COMPLETE mirrors that are available worldwide and not only on specific areas of the world (e.g we do have mirrors of Aminet worldwide, but the search engine runs on wustl.edu which means that if the US mirror is down, none is able to search for files).
What do you think? |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 20 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by John L. Wehler on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | Interesting comment, it was always a measure,to me, of the commitment of each of the recent owners of Amiga, that none of them was interested in supporting Aminet. Especially GateSuck with all their resources.
The new company is small but it would be great to see them step up to the challenge...
JLW |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 21 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Joe R on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | | I agree |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 22 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Pedro Bastos on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | I think that Aminet IS the prime resource of Amiga software and developers,showing off their hard work! If Aminet closes down for good,Amiga will certainly dies... And i will be at a lost without software for my machine as with everyone that still uses our beloved Amiga! If Amiga could host a prime and "eternal" mirror on their website,it would be good. I use the US mirror,since it seems to be the fastest for me here in Portugal,anyway...
AMiGA SHALL RiSE AGAiN! |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 23 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Kent Seaton on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 20 (John L. Wehler):
Manos S. Pappas Wrote:
: You suggest that either Amiga Inc. should host Aminet or that Aminet guys
: should advertise in order to get some money.
: What WE and the Amiga Inc. should do is to "stream" Aminet into more broad
: shareware/freeware channels and maybe integrate it into them (like
: download.com or Tucows). All these sites have EXCELLENT COMPLETE mirrors that
: are available worldwide and not only on specific areas of the world (e.g we
: do have mirrors of Aminet worldwide, but the search engine runs on wustl.edu
: which means that if the US mirror is down, none is able to search for files).
In other words, a Virtual Aminet? Not really where there is just one main server with all of software and several mirrors to boot but serval sites with one central search engine? That would indeed be slick. The only problem with setting something up like this would be "creeping in" of several virus infected files. One thing that I do know that Amiga is looking to setup with their developer "amiga.net" (If I remember correctly from that AW9 document) is to have the ability to allow shareware authors host a site with a way to accept credit card and check/eurocheck payments. I haven't read any more on this but that was part of the AW9 documentation on the AmigaWorld Online Zine.
John L. Wehler Wrote:
: Interesting comment, it was always a measure,to me, of the commitment of each
: of the recent owners of Amiga, that none of them was interested in supporting
: Aminet. Especially GateSuck with all their resources.
That part about "GateSuck" is not entirely true. From what I remember, they where stepping up to the challenge to do just that however it was never implemented due to the "changing of the guards" if you will. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 24 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Len Carsner on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | Terrific idea. I wonder why no one has thought of this sooner.
Perhaps Urban could be given a "position" with AI that would let him continue
Aminet as well as be the center for software from AI themselves. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 25 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by PaulT. on 29-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 24 (Len Carsner):
I think that we're approaching a consensus that Amiga's participation in
Aminet would be a good thing. But how?
Financial support. Most of these organizations, universities, etc. are holding
their servers online because someone else is paying for them. TANSTAFNA, "there ain't no such thing as free net access." So pay a stipend to someone like Urban, and/or pay for new hard disks at a couple of sites, and/or pay for part of some mirror's Net access bill. Don't take on legal responsibility, just find someone you can trust not to take the money and run. Urban has certainly showed dedication to the Aminet and would be a good figurehead for this sort of support. Others could follow.
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 26 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Nancy Rose on 30-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | | Yes! Excellent plan. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 27 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Roj on 30-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | Just to play devil's advocate, what would happen if, heaven forbid, Amiga Inc. were to go under? Is it possible that the Aminet would disappear and have to be reconstructed from scratch?
I can also see the validity in the argument stating that there would be a tendency on the part of A Inc. to refuse software that didn't conform to their perception of where the Amiga should be headed. The result could be both good and bad I suppose. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 28 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Deok-Min Yun on 30-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 27 (Roj):
This is what I thought exactly. What happens if Amiga goes belly up? I'd rather like to support current Aminet rather than Amiga taking over it. Please, leave Aminet alone. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 29 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Trizt on 30-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 28 (Deok-Min Yun):
: This is what I thought exactly. What happens if Amiga goes belly up?
: I'd rather like to support current Aminet rather than Amiga taking
: over it. Please, leave Aminet alone.
I don't think it's good that Amiga Inc takes over the AmiNet, but that they would host the main server, we have seen how often the US server goes up'n'down. I think Amiga Inc has the better chanches to keep a main server runing reliblelly than wustle. but in case Amiga Inc would die of some reasons, wustle would be kept as a secondary main server, so if that happnes, there would only requere some slight changes and the AmiNet would still be there even inf Amiga Inc wouldn't. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 30 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Ron on 30-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | | yes..Yes...YES! |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 31 of 50 | ANN.lu |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 32 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Teemu I. Yliselä on 30-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 11 (Trizt):
I don't think I'm being silly. Let's assume for a while that the new OS hits it off and large company X starts using it in their network. Now, let's assume Amiga have taken on the task of hosting an Aminet mirror. An employee of company X finds a useful sounding program from Aminet and downloads it into the company's network from Amiga's mirror. What he doesn't know is that the program has a backdoor which allows its creator to steal valuable information from the company's network to sell them to X's competitors causing losses of millions of dollars to company X. The criminal never gets caught. Who do company X hold responsible? It could very well be Amiga, since the program was downloaded from their website. People have been known to sue for much less. Even if Amiga won the case, it would mean a stain to their image. Something like this could even serve as a means to purposely hurt Amiga, should someone want to. Also, being hosted by non-profit entities gives Aminet certain freedom that being "under the wing" of a commercial company could take away. I'm all for Amiga supporting Aminet, by means of financial support for example, but I don't think they should host a mirror. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 33 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by DarthJerbo on 30-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 29 (Trizt):
I don't much like the idea of Amiga, Inc., having responsibility for Aminet. That would put AI in a position of having to choose between its own mission and Aminet when it comes to resource allocation. Guess who's going to win that one? Aminet becomes a step-child.
Aminet should remain free and independent. Anything else would, I suspect, lead to a quick demise. But it need not remain unsupported.
I do like the idea of Amiga, Inc., showing its respect for the community by making donations (hardware and/or cash) or even some sort of on-going sponsorship agreement (to be acknowledged - but not as a banner ad - on Aminet.) That way the possible legal issues are bypassed, nobody can question that AI is investing in the community, and Aminet remains unencumbered.
Bill? Fleecy? Anybody in the mood to write a check or two? Just checking ....
DarthJerbo
-"There are no truths outside the gates of Eden."
-Bob Dylan |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 34 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Jonas Andersson on 30-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | yes, it's a very good idea that amiga host the aminet. there is so much incompleteness in today's aminet servers.
jonas |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 35 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Gary Peake on 30-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 9 (AdmV0rl0n):
I did repsond actually. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 36 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Gary Peake on 30-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 33 (DarthJerbo):
A lot of interesting posts. I have some questions.
1. Everyone is quick to say Amiga should take over the role of Aminet. Have you thought out the legal ramifications of this?
2. I see posts stating we should step up to the plate by putting our money where our mouth is for the Amiga community. Will the Amiga community also step up to the plate and donate funds to the present Aminet? This would seriously help Urban Mueller.
3. If Aminet tasks would be taken over by Amiga Inc, who would control Aminet then? Who would be responsible then for backdoors, viruses, and other problems including copyright violations?
Doing something like this is a serious step that calls for sound reasoning.
Sincerely, |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 37 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Don Cox on 30-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 36 (Gary Peake):
IMO Amiga should not host Aminet. It would be to put all the eggs in
one basket. Apart from the possibility of Amiga Inc going out of
business (as owners of Amiga have been known to do), they could have a
change of management policy and decide to close the thing down
overnight.
A good way to support Aminet is to place a regular order for the CDs.
That's what I do.
Soon, a 40Gig drive will be cheap enough that one could put all the
CDs onto it and have Aminet on line at home. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 38 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by colin wilson on 30-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | A lot of people now have ADSL connection to the net, so how about this as an idea (it would have to be done on an informal basis though)
Individuals could donate HD space, and "clone" an entire directory and subdirectories of Aminet - a "server list" could be updated fairly infrequently then (possibly by AI ?), and as long as there are several people linked per section, hopefully you would always be able to get the file you want from one of the linked people.
It`s not 100% practical, but it wouldn`t be a *bad* way of doing it - if someone has an aminet CD and is able to put that online, that would also be a good way of spreading the effort involved in keeping everything running.
Urban could keep the central side of the business for himself and worry less about which server will fail next, and with any luck, the sales of Aminet CD`s will remain as good as ever, saving the effort of people trying to find the files they want across the various servers.
AI would pretty much be absolved of any legal responsibility that way too, as they are simply providing external links, and not holding the files themselves. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 39 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by art mcmahon on 30-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | | Outstanding idea that is long overdue |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 40 of 50 | ANN.lu |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 41 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Rafal Kwasny on 30-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | | Aminet mirrors under Amiga's wings? Yes, please. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 42 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by SirRUSH on 30-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 4 (AmiFreak):
I disagree that with more people becoming online less people will be buying
Aminet CDs. It'll probably stay the way it is or increase. I know many people
who buy Aminet CDs because they like having the archives without having to keep
up with what's NEW & downloading it all the time. Besides, they're great for
archivies.
Anyway, I DO Agree that AMIGA should support Aminet!!!!! |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 43 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by SirRUSH on 30-Apr-2000 22:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 38 (colin wilson):
That's not practical at all. ..People turn their systems off, a crash happens
& then that system goes offline... There are many other problems with that
idea.
Anyway.. I like the Idea proposed but I do not see it happening. I agree with
Gary, more people could buy the CDs or even Donate to such a worthy cause as
Aminet. :)
Don't give to your church, give to Aminet! HEY! I LIKE that! :)))))) Put it
somewhere you KNOW it'll have a Good effect. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 44 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by mark Rippetoe on 01-May-2000 22:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 36 (Gary Peake):
GP|1. Everyone is quick to say Amiga should take over the role of
Aminet. Have you thought out the legal ramifications of this?
It could be done by funding someone else to do the aminet sites and a
little legal disclaimerthat would be displayed on entering and on
leaving the site. Maybe even Ubran Mueller.
GP|2. I see posts stating we should step up to the plate by putting our
money where our mouth is for the Amiga community. Will the Amiga
community also step up to the plate and donate funds to the present
Aminet? This would seriously help Urban Mueller.
Well all we have seen from Amiga inc. is talk so far, it is time that
Amiga inc. either backs the amiga user or shuts up and opens the
amiga OS source codes to all.
GP|3. If Aminet tasks would be taken over by Amiga Inc, who would
control Aminet then? Who would be responsible then for backdoors,
viruses, and other problems including copyright violations?
(sarcasm)You mean Amiga inc has no programers capable of writing
backdoors, viruses,and creating other problems?
GP|Doing something like this is a serious step that calls for sound
reasoning.
(sarcasm) You mean the links have to work?
With all Due respect please show the amiga Community something before
crying "Will the Amiga community also step up to the plate and donate
funds...". I find this hard to understand a company asking thier
users to donate money.This is NOT a charity.
For a company to be worth anything it must have a product/service so
far it has been wait two more weeks , major announcement coming soon.
Ever read the story about the little boy who cried wolf? Well we (the
amiga community} have heard it so off we don't believe it till we can
hold it in our hands.
I read somewhere that Amiga inc. is valued at over 250 million
dollars Strange it has no products/services to speak of, the name
isn't worth $250,000,000.00 seems it has been sold for less than 10
million dollars everytime it has changed hands. So it must be all
Cash/ letters of credit. hmm wonder what Urban Mueller could do with
1/10 of 1% that money.
I read some of the other posts The one which made the most sense was
don't put all your eggs in the same basket.
sincerely
Mark F Rippetoe |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 45 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Jon Peterson on 01-May-2000 22:00 GMT | I really do not see how (or why) Urban Mueller continues to run the AmiNet. Is
he getting any kind of assistance from other individuals, companies, programmers
or users? The number of hours each day required to manage the archives must be
amazing. And with all the failures we have been experiencing over the past several years
it would appear some assistance would be in order. Although I have absolutely
no idea what is involved in running and maintaining the AmiNet, I cannot imagine
requiring some poor soul to continue to do so gratis. Her we go, guys (and girls?),
how about some kind of registration fee per year. Something to serve as an incentive
to maintain a service as important as AmiNet would be a very worthwhile investment,
IMHO. However, I use the AmiNet archives almost daily in maintaining my systems
and the alternative would be a nightmare. Anyone familiar with the organization
of the AmiNet mirrors and know what amount of time and finances involved? Who,
if anyone other than Urban is involved? What is their incentive other than
possible devotion to the Amiga? One usually gets what one usually pays for.... |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 46 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 01-May-2000 22:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 45 (Jon Peterson):
| Her we go, guys (and girls?), how about some kind of registration fee per
| year. Something to serve as an incentive to maintain a service as
| important as AmiNet would be a very worthwhile investment,
Noble idea I'm sure, but unfortunately a lot of the archives on Aminet
could no longer be available for legal reasons. For example, GPL'd
software - okay there isn't a lot of it about in comparison to non-GPL'd
software, but I can think of some - The GNU tools (of course), Dopus 4,
Amster, XPK (which was originally written by Urban Mueller so I'm sure he's
aware of the legal ramifications.) |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 47 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Christian Kemp on 01-May-2000 22:00 GMT | The way I see it, there shouldn't be any legal objections to Amiga Inc. sponsoring a reliable Aminet mirror. If they were able to "donate" the amiga.net domain to the ICOA some time ago, they should also be able to donate it for Aminet mirror. The ICOA could have posted illegal material just as Aminet might contain illegal material, so the legal aspects should be the same.
As for not putting all the eggs in one basket, I don't think Amiga should become Aminet, but they might be able to provide an alternative means of accessing it. In other words, nothing more than a mirror, with the rest of the network remaining a number of independent sites.
As for the people who suggested Amiga could just add a HD to their server setup, I think that things aren't as simple as that though. Most ISPs with so-called "unlimited bandwidth" do not allow file mirrors, and those who do not have unlimited bandwith charge quite a lot for it.
So if you were to ask me, I'd say that while I think something needs to be done to support Aminet and its dwindling number of partly unreliable mirrors, it won't be an easy task.
File archives tend to occupy a lot of bandwith, and the only solution might be to adopt the inferior model used by download.com and other sites - just provide links to downloads and let the writers/producers care about the bandwith and server space. While ANN v2 adopts a similar model with the "Files" category, it is not designed to handle any large volumes... at least not yet... :( |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 48 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Teemu I. Yliselä on 01-May-2000 22:00 GMT | | I think the simplest and safest solution here would be that Amiga would start giving annual donations for maintaining Aminet. The sum needn't be large - I think the show of good will is the main purpose here anyway. In return a small notion along the lines of "Aminet is sponsored by Amiga, Inc" could be placed at all Aminet mirrors. I'm sure the hosts wouldn't have a problem with that. This would keep Aminet independent and non-commercial and free Amiga from any legal responsibility whilst giving Urban and co an extra incentive to keep up their good work. |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 49 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by G.S. Williams on 16-May-2000 22:00 GMT | Greetings from Howick, Auckland, New Zealand.
Hi,
Good, stable Aminet mirror-sites are of great importance to the Amiga fraternity,
therefore, I agree that it would not only be necessary, but vital that Amiga.com
should have a top-end mirror site.
I'm an Amiga owner-user from 'way back, and am a member of Team **AMIGA** and
Amiga Auckland (UG)
If I may add, for us in the outer reaches of everything, the internet is an
important form of communication for us; availability of PD programmes is of
extreme necessity.
New Zealand is almost opposite the UK (actually opposite Spain). The furthest
place from Britain and Europe.
G.S. Williams |
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| Aminet mirrors? : Comment 50 of 50 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by G.S. Williams on 16-May-2000 22:00 GMT | Hi, again.
Regarding the Aminet Mirror site question. Several responses are indicating that
there is a misunderstanding of what a mirror-site is.
The way I understand the term is that it is, in effect, a clone of the main site
and is NOT a replacement of that site. So those who are anxious about Amiga
"taking over" the Aminet site can put their minds at rest. The idea is for
Amiga.co to have a copy or "clone" of the main site.
AMINET WILL STILL BE THE MAIN SITE.
I think that should explain the purpose of the original message.
G.S. Williams |
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