|[News] From the Unmoderated section...||ANN.lu|
|Posted on 07-May-2000 11:40 GMT by Christian Kemp||12 comments|
Some quick tidbits from the unmoderated section here on ANN.
A very unconfirmed and somehow unbelievable rumour of Axl Rose programming for the Amiga.
Somebody having problems with AmigaOS 3.5 and looking for assistance.
Another unlikely rumour of a dual-060 motherboard.
An availability notice of Winux.
|From the Unmoderated section... : Comment 1 of 12||ANN.lu|
|Posted by The Great One on 06-May-2000 22:00 GMT|
|This dual 68060 board is in fact true, it is supposed to be a NG Atari compatible system.|
|From the Unmoderated section... : Comment 2 of 12||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Anonymous on 06-May-2000 22:00 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 1 (The Great One):|
Are you sure? It seems this guy pass his time by _painting_ PCB's instead of designing it... (And the whole site is similar kind of that IWin one.)
Why this ppl doesn't present it as a plan to someone may interested in really realizing it?
|From the Unmoderated section... : Comment 3 of 12||ANN.lu|
|Posted by JT on 06-May-2000 22:00 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 2 (Anonymous):|
Actually, Centek DO produce Atari peripherals and have done so for a very long time now. (Their Centurbo 030 card is popular among Atarians). If they have announced that they're gonna release the board they're previewing on their site, I certainly believe they will do so.
|From the Unmoderated section... : Comment 4 of 12||ANN.lu|
|From the Unmoderated section... : Comment 5 of 12||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Anonymous on 06-May-2000 22:00 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 3 (JT):|
: ...the board they're previewing on their site...
Do you mean that hand-drawn image of a PCB? (OK, it's a masterpiece in its class.)
|From the Unmoderated section... : Comment 6 of 12||ANN.lu|
|Posted by SirRUSH on 07-May-2000 22:00 GMT|
|I **Love** Rock'N'Roll and Metal, but Axl Rose PROGRAMMING?!?! HAhaha!! For|
the AMIGA even?? Okay...STOP passing the Joint around...enough with the
BAD jokes. ;) Hahaha!
Now if it were Neil Peart... I'd be with my Ears to the Wall. :)
|From the Unmoderated section... : Comment 7 of 12||ANN.lu|
|Posted by XDelusion on 07-May-2000 22:00 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 6 (SirRUSH):|
Yes, but only if he could code half as well as he writes lyrics.
Pass that J to me when you done! :O) (sorry totally unprofessional of me) :O) he he
|From the Unmoderated section... : Comment 8 of 12||ANN.lu|
|Posted by JT on 07-May-2000 22:00 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 5 (Anonymous):|
I also became a bit suspicious when I saw the handdrawn diagram, but who knows... maybe they don't have a finished board just yet... a prototype board is prolly around the corner...
|From the Unmoderated section... : Comment 9 of 12||ANN.lu|
|Posted by The Great One on 07-May-2000 22:00 GMT|
|This 68060 system was previewed in the UK mag Computer Shopper in the Atari Section a few months ago so it could be true.|
|From the Unmoderated section... : Comment 10 of 12||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Jofre Furtado on 07-May-2000 22:00 GMT|
|Is it just me, or is it when I mentioned Amiga classic OS on this site that people nearly bit off my head and told me that it wasn't Amiga news. - I see that talking about Linux/Windows actually IS "Amiga News"...|
That's bogus. I like hearing about this stuff, but I think that Amiga classic shouldn't be thrown into the dust as not being anything to do with the Amiga. Yeah, the future is nice and I look forward to buying a new Amiga, but the classic is what I can actually see, touch, and use- so no one knock it-
Sorry to whoever reads this, but I can't believe I got shunned for mentioning the classic OS here on a previous ANN submittance.
|From the Unmoderated section... : Comment 11 of 12||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Ralph on 08-May-2000 22:00 GMT|
|According to one of the developers the dual-060 Board is definitely dead!|
He is working now on a Dual-G4-based design, which is targeted at the Linux market.
Other OS like Be, QNX and MiNT (Atari) are being considered (perhaps a possible
hardware base for MorphOS, too? ;-)
|From the Unmoderated section... : Comment 12 of 12||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Ralph on 10-May-2000 22:00 GMT|
|Rodolphe, the phenix developer, gave me permission to post his eMail so|
here it comes:
Hey, all what you said me, I already know it !
Please read this official communique that was sent to the Atari communauty
in february :
And you will understand that Phenix is dead and the Riored PPC is my actual
And we are in touch with Amiga world, Atari world, Beos and Linux major
28, rue des Sorbiers
email : email@example.com
- This announcement was not written by Centek but by Yann Lossouarn
- firstname.lastname@example.org, who is independent from Centek and contacted
- Rodolphe CZUBA by phone.
- The main piece of news in the Atari world this month revolves around
- Centek. Rumors are spreading over the web and on Usenet about the
- cancellation of the Phenix project and the launch of the Phenix 260
- It is urgent for Centek to publish an official statement.
- Rodolphe CZUBA, who was obviously affected by the recent events has
- entrusted me with the writing of this announcement to maintain neutrality
- the description of events that are emotionally charged. I hope this choice
- will help avoid any controversy (unlike what happened in the past)
- A few months ago (April 99) Centek and Class4 announced their merging to
- form a new company that would keep the name Class4. The goal of this
- operation was to get easier financing to allow Centek's developers to
- their energy to the Phenix project and speed up the release of this
- long-awaited machine.
- Reasons for the cancellation of the Phenix project
- Reality was different. Even though the development of the Phenix's
- was on track, it was not the case for "Dolmen", its operating system. The
- three developers responsible for writing Dolmen gradually chose not to
- finish it and to spend more time working on Class4's business (laser
- Without these developers' work, the project was in a critical situation,
- which lead Rodolphe CZUBA to drop it (at least in its original form)
- Centek goes out of business
- The search for the financing necessary to complete the integration of
- Centek's products was never completed, or never started according to
- Rodolphe, and therefore the merging was never effective.
- With the Phenix project being phased out, there is no reason for Centek to
- go on. Rodolphe CZUBA and his former collaborators chose to close their
- Some equipment belonging to the company will be put up for sale
- Future or no future, that's the question
- The cut out of the Phenix project might leave some of you feeling that the
- trust they had in Centek has been betrayed.
- First of all, Rodolphe CZUBA has no intention of 'disappearing' and he
- support the products he has developed such as the CENTurbo II. Falke
- in Germany might soon produce this accelerating card again, under a
- licensing agreement.
- A DSP 56301 + 20-Bit Audio (or better !) PCI card derived from the Phenix
could be created
- for the Milan.
- As of the software that was developed, there is a lot of uncertainty about
- its future. Will their authors support them? Nothing is more doubtful as
- they seem to have become uninterested in the Atari cause. It could be
- interesting if they would give them to the community so that others could
- possibly follow up.
- You might think that this announcement is just a long list of bad news,
- don't you? As strange as it may seem, I would say that it is the exact
- opposite. A very happy ending seems to be in reach.
- ... and the answer is : future !!!
- I would like to say that what is about to follow may seem implausible to
- many even to the most credulous. But I verified the information given to
- by Rodolphe CZUBA the best I could and my conclusion is that the project
- mentioned in the following lines is absolutely serious.
- In the past few months, Rodolphe realized that the Phenix project was
- a bad turn : the enthusiasm of developers was going downward and the
- financing was late.
- Since he was committed to delivering the Phenix to Atarists, in September
-Rodolphe looked for some contacts to find money to produce the Phenix
- 260, using MiNT as the OS in case Dolmen would not be ready.
- These contacts (in particular a long time friend of Rodolphe) got him in
- touch with American business angels. They were very enthusiastic about the
- Phenix motherboard (hand routed by Rodolphe CZUBA) and decided to start a
- new project for which Rodolphe CZUBA would be in charge of designing a new
- and extremely different motherboard: the RioRed G4. The project would be
- handled by a new company based in the United States in Richardson TX, and
- named "Silicon Fruit". RioRed is the name of a variety of grapefruit,
- is the symbol of Texas and grows in the Rio Grande area.
- Here is a summary of the specifications:
- - CPU : 2 type 1 slots that can both host a card with a 450 MHz G4 PowePC,
- and 2 Mb of L2 cache memory @ 225 MHz
- - 4 32 bit / 33 MHz PCI slots (133 Mo/s in burst mode)
- - 2 64 bit / 66 MHz PCI slots (528 Mo/s in burst mode)
- - IDE UltraDMA 66 controller (4 periphericals)
- - 1 AGP slot
- - 4 USB ports
- - 4 100 MHz SDRAM slots (up to 1 Go, 800 Mo/s)
- It will also be possible to add a PCI card with a very powerful 1 GIPS
- Instruments DSP.
- The basic system provided with the machine will be a Linux distribution
- (maybe YellowDog optimized for the machine's hardware).
- There are also talks with Be Inc to port BeOs for the RioRed. Other
- alternative systems are being considered such as QNX and - very
- for the Atari scene - MiNT. A port or the use of an emulator under Linux
- being considered.
- 50 prototyprs of the machine (called Metanium) should be manufactured
- before the end of the second quarter of 2000. A first batch of 2,000
- machines should then be put up for sale. The bi-G4 version should be
- "between a PowerMac G4 bi-proc and a high range PC). Distribution will be
- limited to sales over the Internet.
- Rodolphe is currently finishing the design of the first prototype in
- collaboration with a software developer in charge of writing a PPC BIOS
- would allow booting from an Iomega ZIP drive.
- A forum is open so that people interested in the project can have contacts
- with developers and investors.
- The idea of an 'open' PowerPC platform on which a variety of alternative
- systems could be available is extremely attractive. Individuals interested
- in purchasing a machine or willing to take part in the development / port
- software should make themselves known in the discussion forum or to the
- members of the project. Prototypes might be provided to developers for
- Wait 'n see
- NB : The Phenix 260 has not been shelved but may be developed personally
- Rodolphe as a 'hobby'.
- Yann Lossouarn / Falk'Asso
- If you would like to check the information yourself, here is a list of
- Silicon-Fruit web site:
- Information on the G4 processor:
- Information on the DSP 320C6711 :
- Information about the Linux distribution "YellowDog" :
- Article published in the online magazine GXNetwork :
-Article (german) published in the online magazine MACNEWS :
- Address for the forum :
- -Article from the forum about porting MiNT for the RioRed :
- -Article from the forum about porting BeOS for the RioRed :
- --Article from the forum about porting the Phenix motherboard designed by
- "one of the developers":
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